Monday, Jul 24, 2006 at 10:31
I run a 3 battery system in the surf. I use a wetcell Calcium battery in the back storage box. It is stored in a plastic battery box (about $20 from super cheap). Thats the idea of a battery box, to allow you to use a wetcell battery in an environment where you don't want spillage. Calcium-calcium batteries produce little (if no) gassing when charging from your alternator as they do not gas until about 14.9v making the system safe for inside an enclosed space such as a car cabin.
I would recommend using an either identical or similar capactiy battery to your existing deep cycle and running the two in parralell. ie Just hook the third battery directly (fuesd of course, I use a 70amp circut breaker at both ends myself) to the existing deep cycle. You may need to upggrade your wiring to 8g or 4g to get the best results, I use 4g all the way to the front.
The reasons for this are:
1. Cheaper
2. Simpler
3. It will work better.
According to Peukert's Law a 100amp hour deep cycle battery with a 4 amp load (ie a fridge) will discharge faster than two 100amp hour batteries hooked up together. "DEERR" you're probally thinking, it's got twice the storage capacity so of course it will!
What I'm talking about is that the more load you draw from a battery the less efficiant it becomes. Most deep cycle batteries sizes are rated on a particular draw. 20amps seems to be the most common. ie If you have a 100amp hr battery and you draw 20amps continously from it, in theory it should last 5 hours. (100/20). If you draw 1 amp from it, it may last 110 hours and if you draw 100amps from it it may only last half an hour (instead of the expected 1 hour that the rating would lead you to belive).
Therefore by hooking both batteries togerther you now have a 200amphour battery bank instead of two seperate 100amp hour batteries meaning that the current draw you now are taking from the system is 50% less of the total amp hour rating than it was previously giving you more run time.
You can read about Peukert's Law here: www.smartgauge.co.uk/peukert2.html
I found that when I installed the third deep cycle battery I don't just get double the run time out of the fridge, I get substantially more than double. On a hot summers day (40c) I could pull up at
camp, run my fridge at -2c, music, lights,
water pump all day and night and have bascially nothing left in the 100amp/hr by morning (about 11.0v). By putting the second identical battery into the system I barley even dent the battery bank by doing the same thing (12.1v). The batteries are fairly old and after rest charged normally only sit at 12.5v, maybe 12.6v after a good 3 stage charge at home.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Jul 24, 2006 at 17:34
Monday, Jul 24, 2006 at 17:34
A small correction if I may:
I think the usual spec for lead/acid batteries assumes a "C/20" load, in other words if you have a 100Ah battery it's only good for 100Ah if you draw 5A from it. If you draw 50A it will last (guessing here - Google for accurate curves) one hour.
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Jul 24, 2006 at 18:44
Monday, Jul 24, 2006 at 18:44
Peukerts Law doesn't really account for that much difference.
From the Trojan Battery Deepcycle wetcell datasheet.
if you discharge at 5.25 amps you get 105 amphours.
If you discharge at 17 amps you get 85 amphours
So dividing the current by 3.2 only increases capacity by 24%
Mike
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Monday, Jul 24, 2006 at 18:50
Monday, Jul 24, 2006 at 18:50
Only 24%?!? Thats 1/4 of you're total battery capacity!
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