Shocks to Well 33

Submitted: Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 14:43
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Have some friends with failed GU shocks currently north of well 33 canning stock route and trying to organize right now 3pm melb time 25 july , how to get some to them from perth.

The Cotton Creek community about 200km SW seems to have a mail run which might be way to go.

Any suggestions welcome , but only valid for today most likely

Robin Miller
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Reply By: traveller2 - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 15:08

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 15:08
No spares?
As shocks do a huge amount of work on a coil sprung vehicles it is always a good idea when travelling in remote areas on rough tracks to carry one front and one rear original shock with rubbers to use in an emergency.
Funny that original shocks while they may fade into oblivion rarely fail catastrophically, which does happen to aftermarket ones, BTDT.
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Follow Up By: Hairy - Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 15:50

Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 15:50
Maybe hes carrying heaps of spares but not the one needed?
Maybe just learning?
Might have even slipped his mind when leaving?
You cant carry a spare for everything!
How about offering some help instead of criticism...Legend
I thought this site was about people with common interests helping each other, not being know-it-alls!
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Reply By: Grizzle - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 15:58

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 15:58
Don't bitch or crow, help the bloke out!!!!!!!

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Follow Up By: traveller2 - Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 08:33

Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 08:33
Wasn't intending to bitch or crow, just would have thought that everyone realised what a major part of the suspension a shock is on a coil sprung vehicle and spares should be carried unless you wan to limp the vehicle to where help is available.
Shocks will not immobilise the vehicle rather just make it very uncomfortable and may mean that travel speeds will have to be slowed to a crawl. Having had a Rangie on the Gunbarrel without any shocks (totally ripped apart and removed) for about 500k we did manage to drive it to Meekatharra before spares were available.
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Reply By: gazza60 - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 16:22

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 16:22
G,day
a couple of years back whilst on the canning,we met people who needed various parts for their vehicles. They were able to arrange for parts to be flown into Koonuwaritji "forgive spelling", the community just near well 33.
hope this helps
PS. there is also a tip some where near the community that apparently has many wrecked wehicles, you would need to speak to an elder at the community about this.
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Reply By: Notso - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 16:40

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 16:40
I used Aust Post to get some hefty wheel bits and pieces for the camper from Melb to Fitz Crossing for $45.00. took 5 days.

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Reply By: Robin - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 16:41

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 16:41
Last couple of hours have been interesting.

Just sorting out what was required via Satphone took an effort with couple of dropouts, and not full knowledge at other end of what suspension installed
by supplier.

Seems OME aftermarket 2in suspension fitted just for trip has seen 1 and maybe 2 rear shocks stuff seals,

Not knowing where to start , loaded up great desert tracks map and phoned communities within 600km.
(Well companies despatch dept did - thank you Raylene)

And Gazza -that community you mentioned is closer and looked better, but only had answering machine and have not actually made contact yet.

We now have temporay plan which will get shocks to Cotton creek friday which is about 3hrs away from Well 33 and they will be picked up.

2 X N19and 2 XN29 shocks leaving from ARB perth to Newman thursday, and then dropped off by pilot at Cotton creek Friday.

Thanks

Robin Miller

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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 17:17

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 17:17
Just out of curiosity, are they under warranty and have ARB come to the party at all?

Cheers andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Ed. C. (QLD) - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 19:28

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 19:28
Ummm..... Cotton Creek 3 hours away from Well 33 ????????????
(may be possible by air, I dunno;-)))

On the ground, Try 3 days!!!

The turn-off to Parnngurr community (Cotton Creek) is about 90 km west of Georgia Bore (which is approx. 40 km west of Well 23) along the Talawana track...

Methinks ya's need to check yer maps ;-))))
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Follow Up By: Pilbara Wayne - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 19:29

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 19:29
With the current track condition, to get from Cotton Creek to Well 33 in 3 hours would mean that the vehicle doing the trip would need to be replaced.

Have just come back from the Canning on Saturday and it took us two days to get from Well 33 to Georgia Bore - which is still approx 90km from Cotton Creek.

Kunawarritji has a mail plane once a week (Tuesdays) and would be your best bet. The communities are currently pretty empty due to some local business being conducted by the Martu people.

The first 20 km south of Well 33 takes an hour to do due to the corrugations. Sorry if this info is too late, but you need to let your friends know how far away they really are.

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 22:00

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 22:00
>>>to get from Cotton Creek to Well 33 in 3 hours would mean that the vehicle doing the trip would need to be replaced.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOLD!
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Reply By: dieseltojo - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 17:29

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 17:29
Hi Robin,
Sound like a tough asignment,Have you sought info from the HF comunity in the area? When we went away a few weeks ago we had good responses to our calls and some one is bound to have a spare on board out there.

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Follow Up By: Fusion - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 17:41

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 17:41
If I had a spare 'whatever' on the CSR I don't know that I'd be giving it up to everyone who had a problem, particularly someone who didn't prepare adequately for the trip.

If it was a life threatening situation that would be a different story. But if it's just an expensive inconvenience, then I'd rather the unprepared party has that expensive incovenience rather than me further down the track.

What are everyone's thoughts on this?

Aaron.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 18:07

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 18:07
How about meeting halfway: you can have my spare wotsit but if I break down and need it you pay the costs - sign here please :)

Be damned hard to enforce later though.

I dunno - judgement call at the time, I guess.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 18:23

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 18:23
Paul I think you just highlighted the main difference between a HF radio & a Sat phone. The Sat phone requires the opperator to do all the ringing around waiting for people to get back to him, finding a supplier, organizing a courier, often at great expense. On the HF you can call the VKS 737 base. The friendly opperator chases up the parts for you. Has them sent overnight & another VKS member offers to run them out to you seeing they are in the area. Another calls in & gives advice over the radio on how to fit the parts & they're on their way in very little time.
Aaron would I give my spare shocks to a complete stranger in need? (even if he was ill prepared).............of course. On my next trip it may be me in trouble & as well prepared as I always go, I may need something that someone else in the Radio network can help me with, possibly even that bloke I helped out last time.
Anyway glad to see Robin nearly has it sorted, the Canning can be a difficult spot to break down at times.
Cheers Craig................
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Reply By: Kiwi Kia - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 17:51

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 17:51
Cotton Creek could be a good bet as there is fuel etc. there also.

Can anyone tell me why people still get a fuel drop on the Canning? Is Cotton Creek to far out of the way? (I have not been to Cotton Creek or the Canning yet - thats next year)
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Follow Up By: Pilbara Wayne - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 19:32

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 19:32
No fuel at Cotton Creek last week. They only had two days supply for their generators. Empty community and nothing open or available.

Fuel dump by Capricorn Roadhouse (near Newman) works out cheaper than fuel at Kunawarritji. 200 L from Capricorn was $450 compared to 2.80 per litre ($560) from Kunawarritji. You need to take a pump - the one left there doesn't work!
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Reply By: Member - Andy C (WA) - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 18:15

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 18:15
Telfer may also be a suitable place to pick up an air delivery.

Don't know the road from Well 33 to Cotton Creek but the road to Telfer is pretty good and you can make some good time.

Good luck and don't worry about the "knockers" here that are happy to kick someone who's on the ground!

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 18:37

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 18:37
The road from Well 33 to Cotton Creek (Tallawana Trk) is crap, very very corrugated.
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Reply By: Member - Andy C (WA) - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 19:08

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 19:08
Robin

Call me in Perth on 0407 422 616

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Reply By: dieseltojo - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 19:33

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 19:33
Crackles,your spot on,no one is being asked to bleed here.As most well prepared groups would have these shocks on board,and in a group of say 6 vechicles its not out of the question that a supply could be made.If that group felt it was a worthy cause based on risk assesment, why not?I am sure the person concerned is feeling bad enough as it is and lecturing them is not helpfull.You can winge all day about why the bloke who supplied the shocks dosn`t get out there and organise a replacement as well.After all is said and done,mabe limp mode lets you see more than flying along.But it`s nice to be able to keep up with the group.All comments are valid however and no doubt the person concerned will take spares in future.Of course as we all know next time it will be a piston.engine mount uni,brake part,radiator........

No offence intended
Regards Paul Klat
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 22:37

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 22:37
Back in the good old days on my 1st Canning run a bloke had a bearing fail in his altenator around Durba Springs. The Flying Doc service asked for asistance over the HF to run the Part up which we did transporting it to them in 3 days. Thankfully VKS has taken over coordinating this type of sevice for the 4x4 community & with so many more members now assistance is rarely far away.
The poor fellow with the blown shocks probably thought he was doing the right thing by upgrading the shocks to OME but are the brand I've seen the most failures on remote trips. (Amazing what alot of advertising does) Always worth throwing in the old shocks as a back up even if they may fade a bit.
Cheers Craig...........
Hey Paul next time can you send a "Follow up" not "Post a reply" to keep the thread running? :-)
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Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 20:50

Tuesday, Jul 25, 2006 at 20:50
Hi Robin

If all else fails call me, I work some a 4wd componets supplier and might be able to help, and have a perth office.

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Reply By: smort - Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 06:45

Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 06:45
Hi Robin

when i was at well 33 which is about 5 ks from kunawaritji a number of aircraft landed at their airfield one after the other - why not have the aircraft land them there?

Perhaps someone is taking a lend of you to make a buck.

Hope this helps

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Reply By: Robin - Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 14:13

Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 14:13
Thanks to this forum and its advice on and off line, we found out that
the locals who said that Cotton crk is 3 hrs away meant 3hrs from Canning
and not 3 hrs from well 33 where its closer to 3days.

As a result the shock drop off has been diverted to Punmu on friday which is the plane's mail run.
Its west on the Wapet road which is a lot closer, and a return trip to pick'em
up can be apparently made in under a day easily.

Thank You

Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: Member - Andy C (WA) - Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 16:42

Wednesday, Jul 26, 2006 at 16:42
Well Done Robin!

Andy
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Follow Up By: Robin - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 16:44

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 16:44
Not Quite Yet Andy

Would you believe that after co-ordinating pilot, we could not make contact
with person in the community to accept the shocks, for many hours.

Without this happening the original arrangements (Cotton creek) were effectivily in place, as were not able to contact party due to "GlobalStar unavailability".

In the meantime the travellers had progressed (20kmh) down to well 31 hence
bypassing the turn off, on there slow way to cotton creek.

The pilot , also has an answering machine on , and couldn't be directly told to drop shocks back off at original place (cotton creek)

So "fingers crossed" shocks will be picked up friday at Cotton creek after all.

Robin Miller

(and to think I offered my spare set up front !)

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Follow Up By: Member - Andy C (WA) - Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 18:13

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006 at 18:13
Keep me posted - a very exiting diary the boss will bring home!

Andy
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Follow Up By: Member - Andy C (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 22:05

Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 22:05
What's the latest Robin?

I'm off on the CSR in two weeks!

Andy
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Follow Up By: Robin - Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 09:51

Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 09:51
Hi Andy

Our travellers did pick up and fit there new shocks sucessfully from Cotton Creek Saturday.

While there were plenty of corrugations, they were ok by just taking there time.

Been unable to contact by satphone since then - but hope to on regular sched today.

You must be getting excited to be getting out again. And we are excited by prospect of getting our wheels in the snow for first time this season on weekend.

Robin Miller
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