So I found a bit of gold....now what?
Submitted: Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:13
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chump_boy
Morning all,
I was out 4 wheeling a little while ago, and picked up a funny looking rock.
It was clear quartz, with a browny looking vein running through it. When I got it home, I broke it open, and there seemed to be a very thin layer of gold on top of the metal oxide.....
What should I do now? It was in a
State Forest, so it seems OK to go get a few more (there were quite a few.....). It was
well off the track - kinda a find while having a bit of a look around an area, but I am sure I could find it again..
Any thoughts?
Chump
Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:15
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:15
go and collect a million of them, and break them up, and you may have enough for a bag of chips :P
or go hire a metal detector.
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:22
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:22
A whole bag, huh?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 12:47
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 12:47
I should have said bag FOR chips.. apologies for getting you too excited
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Reply By: Niffty - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:20
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:20
Any ideas?
Yep tell us all where it is and we can all have a bag of chips.Super size me.
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:24
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:24
Lol...
I have just never found anything like this before, and don't know if it is worth exploring further, or better to just not get too excited.
As truckster said, it may be worth a whole bag of chips......
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:33
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:33
Ummmmmm.........Keep quiet about it.
Try contacting APLA (Amalgamated Prospectors and Leaseholders Association) and they should be able to point you in the right direction.
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Reply By: Notso - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:37
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:37
Yep, apparently where quartz and iron occur together it is quite common to find Gold also.
That came from a gold fossicker up at
Emerald.
So it might be worth a little trip with a metal detector, you never know. Actually it has been a long held desire of
mine to stub me toe on a lump of gold too big to carry home. I imagine myself sitting on it and sending the missus back for the truck. There again she'd probably prang it.
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Follow Up By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:50
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:50
Then you could afford a new one ;-)
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Reply By: 3.0turbob - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 12:27
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 12:27
Sorry 'ol Chump, sounds like it's "Fools Gold" (iron pyrite or muscovite mica).
Still, you can get it checked ....... just to make sure.
Rob
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Reply By: age - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 12:36
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 12:36
Chump Boy
Which state are you in ? I realise your find is very small as outlined in other replies but the following is legislation in QLD - not sure about other states.
In QLD, unless you hold the correct fossikers licence (which are usually for small gazetted areas only) or are the holder of a fuill blown exploration permit (EPM), then all minerals belong to the state regardless of whether found on private or public land. If you found it on ground that is held by another exploration permit holder they actually have right to it and by removing it you are stealing it. EPM's are often held over state land like state forests
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 12:47
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 12:47
>>then all minerals belong to the state regardless of whether found on private or public land
and anybody would take notice of this because?
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Follow Up By: age - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 12:56
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 12:56
Guess no one would take notice of it until they try and sell their gold to make some money (I am talking a reasonable amount here). You end up paying some dodgy dealer half of what it is really worth because they are the only ones that will buy it as with anyone else reputable, the origin of the mineral needs to be known (read legally extracted)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 13:07
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 13:07
million ways around it, simple one would be to say you got it elsewhere in another state..
I liken this crap to those kids in WA that found the dinosaur eggs all them yrs ago, when the Gov told them to bleep off and they are State property, the kids told em to stick it, adn went and buried them until they got their way..
bleep over ruling governments and their gay rules.
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Follow Up By: age - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 13:21
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 13:21
Guess with my luck I will never have to worry about it !!!
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Follow Up By: Frank_Troopy - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 13:53
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 13:53
>> and anybody would take notice of this because?
Because to do otherwise is stealing. Whether from an individual or from the public it is wrong to just take stuff, Truckster. Things you "find" aren't yours; legally or morally.
If someone drops their wallet on the street and you find it, does that make it yours? Of course not.
What's the difference if the item is publicly owned? Instead of stealing from one person you are stealing from everyone.
Also, do you really not understand why items of scientific value should be public property?
If you're ever in Clapham, Truckster, please stay off the omnibus.
Cheers Frank.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog - Vic - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 14:42
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 14:42
When I took the five cents that I found into the cop
shop the copper told me to bleep off as he had enough paper work to do, what do you suggest in this case Frank ?
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Follow Up By: Frank_Troopy - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 15:55
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 15:55
Just use common sense Ray, that's what the courts do. Buy yourself an icecream.
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Follow Up By: Member - Pezza (QLD) - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 17:40
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 17:40
"Just use common sense Ray, that's what the courts do"
Hahahahahahah hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha.
OOOOhhhhh please, I'm getting stomach cramps from laughing too much!!!!
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog - Vic - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 17:50
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 17:50
The cents I found weren't common, they actually belong to someone. They could have been some kids life savings and you suggest I blow them on icecream. Life just aint fair sometimes.
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Follow Up By: Frank_Troopy - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 18:36
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 18:36
>> Hahahahahahah hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha.
>> OOOOhhhhh please, I'm getting stomach cramps from laughing too much!!!!
Pezza,
What's so funny? Surely Ray has SOME common sense.... just a little ...
Cheers Frank.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 18:53
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 18:53
I think the laughter was in response to your comment; "that's what the courts do"
and your statement that they use common sense and the implicit suggestion of justice.
I would be surprised if anyone who has had much to do with the legal system in this country would _ever_ expect either justice or common sense from a court.
btw, ownership of gold in this country is not quite as clear cut, from a moral perspective, as you make out – there was a bit of an argument about that at
Ballarat a while back, my Miners Right sits on the desk to my left as a consequence.
Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Frank_Troopy - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 20:05
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 20:05
Yeah Mike,
Actually, I was feigning the misunderstanding.
Well, I thought it was funny.
I'm sure you are right about gold morality. Different perspectives often put good people in moral conflict and many things that seem simple in ignorance are complex when understood.
That's why we need law and the concept of the view of the man in the street or the man on the Clapham omnibus.
Cheers Frank.
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Reply By: Member - Michael J (SA) - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 13:25
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 13:25
Hi Chump_boy,
I reckon that the very first thing to do is to make sure that it is gold.
Having done that, and it is indeed gold of good quality, you need to send me a mm detailing exactly where this was found.
I will then go and
check that it is safe for you to continue to prospect.
Should I fail to contact you within a week or two then you can be sure that your find was a good one............
Cheers
Michael
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 13:33
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 13:33
If only I was a member, and I would mm you.......lol
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Follow Up By: Member - Michael J (SA) - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 13:48
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 13:48
Registered post would be fine, or you could join and I would refund your money subject finding sufficient gold.
PS don't tell anyone else about this find.
Michael
lol lol
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Reply By: Mazdan - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 14:30
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 14:30
There is plenty out there to be found.
If you scavenge arround the old mines out at Hillend, you will find plenty of bits of quartz with tiny ammounts in them.
It pays to know what your looking for although it stands out like the proverbial dogs when u are on a good thing...........amazingly beautiful.
I have quite a few small bits myself, keep em in a bottle on the coffee table.
All my bits might make up a few pin heads but thats about all.
Very pretty never the less.
I had
mine confirmed as real gold by the museum at Hillend and apparently it is true that fools gold is far more likely to be found.
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Follow Up By: Kiwi Kia - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 17:23
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 17:23
Visible gold in quartz is not common so be prepared to be disapointed.
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Reply By: extfilm - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 19:42
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 19:42
Hi Chumpy,
Easiest way to tell if it is gold is it's weight. I have found a few nuggets in my time with the biggest an ounce and a half. I have a few rocks with gold in them and the best way to tell is pick up a
rock of similar size and compare the weight.
If u find it is gold then go to a miner's
shop (I trust u found it in an area where gold is prolific) and hire a detector and go and have fun....... Get the best detector they have on offer.....ie Minelab. If your "bit" is gold then I am sure there is more of the stuff.......
Depending on which state u are in depends on the rules and regs according to miner's rights. I was fortuanate to get my WA one before they changed it to a yearly renewal.
Mine is valid until my ticker gives out.
Good luck and if you do decide to go back the main thing is you are back in the
bush camping and having fun..... Who cares if you find anymore it is a wonderful excuse to go back :)
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Reply By: Bilbo - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 21:50
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 21:50
Chump Boy,
Contrary to what you've read here, gold in quartz is quite common. I'm a professional prospector and have found quite a bit over the years. I'm also the former Secretary of APLA (Amalgamated Prospectors and Leaseholders Association) in W.A.
If you want an unbiased opinion and assuming you've already broken it into small pieces and you can send me a small piece of it, you can email me for help at
leslowe@iinet.net.au
As an old hand at this and I can assure you, there are a many ways to skin a cat ;)
I'm not interested in chasing it up myself. I know too many potentail gold bearing
places to go chasing someone elses gold.
Bilbo
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Follow Up By: Mazdan - Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 22:32
Friday, Jul 28, 2006 at 22:32
Yep I agree. Certainly based on my experiences anyways.........there is heaps of it out there............hell its just lieing arround on the ground. (In my best Monty Python voice)
Im not suggesting there is enough to make any money, unless your prepared to put many many years into it, but there is plenty to make it a real highhlight of a trip if you find it.
My specs are probably worth less than the glass bottle that holds them.........but the feeeling of finding them was worth a fortune.
haha, and whats funny is that even though you know that they are worth nothing.........the gold fever gets you at the time.
Its easy to spend hours and hours looking.
I am certain that back in the early days, gold hunting was an absolute addiction.
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Reply By: lbudgie - Saturday, Jul 29, 2006 at 20:14
Saturday, Jul 29, 2006 at 20:14
chump
Dont tell anyone where it is.
get
the rock analised.
if the expert asks were you found it, tell them 20km from where you did.
if its gold, hire the best detector you can get and lern how to use it.
go and get all the gold you can get befor some one else will.
and dont tell anyone that you are going out as they might follow you.
and invite us to the party
thanks
lbudgie
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Follow Up By: Member - Pedro the One (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 30, 2006 at 03:21
Sunday, Jul 30, 2006 at 03:21
pertinent to another thread on here ..................
>Dont tell anyone where it is.
>get
the rock analised.
Iffen it turns out not to be gold, would that be classed as a bummer ???????????
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Reply By: lbudgie - Sunday, Jul 30, 2006 at 18:11
Sunday, Jul 30, 2006 at 18:11
Member - Pedro the One (QLD) posted this followup
pertinent to another thread on here ..................
>Dont tell anyone where it is.
>get the rock analised.
Iffen it turns out not to be gold, would that be classed as a bummer ???????????
what ya talkin bout willis??
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Follow Up By: Member - Pedro the One (QLD) - Monday, Jul 31, 2006 at 21:10
Monday, Jul 31, 2006 at 21:10
>what ya talkin bout willis??
Willis ????
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Follow Up By: lbudgie - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 21:37
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 21:37
a quote from "diferent strokes"
if ya old enough.
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