Leaking windscreens

Submitted: Monday, Jul 31, 2006 at 18:24
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I have water sneaking in past the rubber and screen on the 80....is there a way to seal it properly without removing the screen??
Andrew
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Reply By: luch - Monday, Jul 31, 2006 at 18:33

Monday, Jul 31, 2006 at 18:33
Andrew you gan try running some sealant around the screen
But these seals are common for leaking with age most windscreen fitters will warn you when they fit a screen to one of these they usually prefer to install a new one
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Reply By: Member - Tour Boy- Monday, Jul 31, 2006 at 18:56

Monday, Jul 31, 2006 at 18:56
Hi Andrew,
Top of the drivers side about 4" from the side?- normal (new seal) especially after "real" off roading.
How did you go with the multi valve?
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Reply By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Monday, Jul 31, 2006 at 19:07

Monday, Jul 31, 2006 at 19:07
Andrew,
I know exactly what you are going through.
Check out this thread

Having fitted a new genuine rubber it continued to leak, and this had followed 2 replacement windscreens and numerous resealing by so called experts.

On trip to Broome we ran into a small shower at Barn Hill station and the leaking was still there.
Fortunately, it did not rain again until I was at Emerald in Queensland, and it started to rain again big time.
A minor flood resulted and I had to remove the plug in floor to let water out.
Went to local Toyota dealer but they could not help and referred me to local windscreen repair (Protector I think ).
Usual promise of I will fix it, which I had heard from every one of the previous repairers.
Said I was used to this but this guy said he had an 80 series and knew what to do.
After he had started he called me into workshop and showed me that there was no sealant on the underneath part of rubber at top of screen.
I said but that water does not run uphill and his reply was that" you would be surprised where it runs"
Anyway to cut a long story short I paid the $99 and have been through 8inches in one night and 28 inches over 3 days and not a sign of a leak.
So for what its worth check to see if yours is sealed on bottom side at the top.

Pedro

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Reply By: big fella - Monday, Jul 31, 2006 at 21:38

Monday, Jul 31, 2006 at 21:38
hi all sorry dozer i am sought of going to hi-jack your thread i have a rodeo and have a water leak as well and it is drip onto the air con fan and burning it out so iwas wondering if this could be caused by a leaking windscreen.The water only tends to pool on the passenger side.If so how do i tell because my mechanic couldn't find where the leaking was coming from and told me to go to a panel beater also the leaking is gradually getting worse.

Regards BigFella
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Monday, Jul 31, 2006 at 22:28

Monday, Jul 31, 2006 at 22:28
Hi there Big Fella, Do a check first and check that its not the drain from the plenum chamber (grille under your wipers), run the hose through the vents near the wipers, dont put on windscreen and see if the water is running out under the guards, I believe the drain holes block up in there with crap, leaves ,etc and the next place for the water to run is down through the vent that the fresh air comes in. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:10

Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:10
Had a similar problem on another car in the family.
Is it a bonded windscreen like the commodores?
The other car leaked too, but is not bonded, so bought a new rubber and put it in myself.
After taking the old one out by applying even pressure from the inside with my feet (the rubber was almost perished), it took me most of a day to clean the windscreen surround of previous sealants.
Then a small bead of sealant on the steel, slipped the rubber around the screen (what a pain until you got the knack), a wipe of kero on the rubber, two on the outside applying even pressure and a bit of cord inside, and it was in.
Hasn't leaked since.
The experts make it look easy, but I don't think they clean the steel surround as well.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 17:58

Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 17:58
Forgot to mention, if you have a new rubber, easiest way is to slit the old rubber with a sharp knife and it pops out real easy. Just don't catch anything with the knife :o).
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Follow Up By: Member - John R (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 09:27

Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 09:27
Excellent idea Oldplodder. That way you won't crack the glass.
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Reply By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:18

Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 08:18
In my experience there is no way to stop a windscreen leak permanently without removing the screen and doing it properly.
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Reply By: Member - John R (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:38

Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:38
Gidday Dozer,

It depends where your leak is coming from. If it is in the lower part, you most likely have blocked drain holes in the scuttle or rubber, or both. That's assuming you have a self-draining rubber. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to clear a blockage without removing the glass. If you take that path, you'd be better replacing the rubber while you have it out.

I would suggest that your rubber has shrunk with time. There's not much you can do to get a permanent fix with a shrunken rubber. If you're going to use some sort of sealant, avoid hardening ones if possible (such as Sikaflex or silastic). While they are good products, they arent really intended for the task. You need a butyl type sealant which stays soft (you know, the one that's a pain in the ar$e to clean up).
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 12:15

Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 12:15
Thanks everyone...all food for thought....i think i will look for a professional to mend it.
The water is seen coming from the glass where it mates to the rubber seal in the lower corner of the drivers side, and then runs off the rubber and behind the dash....my first thought was to get some sealant in between the glass and rubber on the outside, therefore steming the flow...but from whats been said, i think this is more than just a easy fix...
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Moose - Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 12:51

Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 12:51
G'day Andrew
Had same problem a while back. Mine was leaking in behind the rear view mirror. We got O'Briens in and he resealed it but he said as vehicle was old that he couldn't guarantee it wouldn't leak and that if it did the only option was to replace rubber. Since then we've had bugger all rain up here in Brisbane but it has leaked once so obviously we're up for a replacement job. Since it doesn't rain we've been putting it off!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - John R (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 13:50

Tuesday, Aug 01, 2006 at 13:50
No worries, Dozer. If the 80 has a self-draining rubber, the place you describe is most likely the drain hole being blocked.

If you don't have a chrome trim on the rubber you may be able to unblock the hole without removing the glass. You must be real careful however.

With some windscreen rubbers you can locate the holes from the outside. Those ones have small slots moulded into the lip of the rubber (looks like a little gap where the water can drain). The drain hole is located directly above these slots in the groove that the glass sits in.

IF the rubber is still supple enough, and only IF, you can try and gently pry the rubber away from the glass enough to probe the dirt out of the drain hole. When I was in the industry we used a "chicken stick" which is a thin spatula shaped tool made of flexible nylon. Anything soft and pliable should work, but under no circumstances use a screwdriver!

If you can expose the hole you might be able to direct a blast of water in there and clear the drain.

Good luck!
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