Catching Mud Crabs
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Member - jeff M (SA)
I need to know how to catch mud crabs.As I fish in the River Murray S.A. only have yabby net's.Is it possible to catch mud crabs in a yabbie net or should I buy something to suit.Do I need a licence.
As I have never even seen how one is caught, can you just through a net in of the bank or do yu need a boat to set the net.
Hope it doesn't sound too dumb a question but going up to
Karumba in a few months.
Thanks for any help.
Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 22:14
Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 22:14
Jeff,
Have you seen the size of those suckers?
Definitely not a yabbie net mate.
Most "nets" I have seen are more like cages made from wire mesh that the mothers can't cut through with their claws.
Dined on chili Mud Crab last time we were in FNQ (Pt. Douglas) YUM!
I can see why they fetch a good price.
Not saying our Blue Swimmer Crabs are not delectable, but the amount of meat in the Muddies is like, wow!
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Reply By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 23:02
Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 23:02
Great fun to catch ..... not so much fun being caught by one of them :( ............. You can have 4 pots person over 15years of age (I think) and you MUST have your name and address on each pot or float attached to the pot.
They can be big suckers ........ but they taste damn fine ....... Best if you can get collapable pots easier to take. Bait up with fish or chicken frames and place at
the entrance of a feeder creek near the the mangroves ............. just don't become a meal placing the pots. Also allow plenty of cord as they have big tides.
Have fun
Brian
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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:26
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:26
Another good bait for the traps is tins of cat food (sardines and the like) punch a couple of holes in the can before you put it in the pot and into the water. There is no mess this way so when travelling maybe a bit easier to live with?? Still not as good as the frames of fish or chicken but it will catch a crab if they are there.
Regards, Trevor.
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Reply By: Bros 1 - Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 23:06
Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 23:06
jeff M,
Probably the best aparatus for catching muddies is a round, 4 entrance crab pot. These are usually made from two large wire hoops fitted with a trawl net like covering and are usually collapsible. They can be purchased from just about any tackle
shop in Qld, and range in price from around $12 for the el cheapo imported one to $40-50 for the robust
home made model. They can be used from a boat or off the bank. I have used both imported and locally made with success.
Another way to catch muddies is to use a crab dilly. One model is a walk in-walk out round open top mesh hoop/dilly that you need to
check fairly regularly. Another type of dilly is the inverted mesh dilly referred to as a "Witches Hat". Dillies range from $3 to $6. You need a boat to use dillies effectively. You do not need a licence to use a crab pot or dilly but there are some rules to obey.
1. No more than 4 pots or dillies or a combination of pots and dillies per person.
2. Crab pots and dillies must be marked by an identifying tag bearing the surname and address of the owner.
3. When not fixed to something they must have a light coloured float attached, not less than 15 cm in any dimension, with the name of the owner clearly inscribed on it.
4. An inverted dilly type must be made of multifilament.
5. Size and bag limits apply both to blus swimmer and mud crabs. Blue swimmer is 11.5 cm min size and no bag limit. Muddies are 15 cm min and a bag limit of 10 per person per trip. No females of either species is allowed to be kept. You would have to see a diagram to understand where to measure swimmers and muddies.
When you purchase your aparatus ask the tackle
shop bloke for the latest "GUIDE TO RECREATIONAL BOATING AND FISHING IN QUEENSLAND" free publication put out by Maritime Safety Qld and the DPI Qld.
Now that you are all set up all you have to worry about are crab pot raiders. For these you need a fairly large cannon. LOL.
Cheers,
Bros.
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Follow Up By: Member - jeff M (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 23:36
Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 23:36
Bros 1
Thanks mate might just get a couple before I head off or do yu know if I could buy a couple nets in
Karumba.(never been up that way)
Them crab pot raiders are they the big Lizards with huge teeth !!!!!!.
Regards: Jeff
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Follow Up By: handy - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 07:36
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 07:36
the pot raiders are the lazy ------ that raid other peoples pots.
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Follow Up By: Bros 1 - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 09:00
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 09:00
jeff M,
As handy says they are the bludging, low life two legged raiders. Hopefully after you catch them in the act, they have no teeth left because you have removed them with a straight right.
I have never been to
Karumba (too crowded in winter, too hot in summer) but i feel sure that you will be able to buy what you want when you get there.
Cheers,
Bros.
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Reply By: Dave198 - Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 23:30
Wednesday, Aug 02, 2006 at 23:30
I have also had a few feeds of muddies and they are best eaten with a serve of malt & hops.
They certainly have big claws and I have seen many of them with the claws tied with twine after they have been caught.
My understanding is that they feed on the root systems of the mangroves, hence their claws are so strong to chomp through the roots.
I may very
well be wrong, but I have been told that the muddies are eaten by the big Barras, and the big Barra are eaten by the Crocs, so wherever you find muddies, you also find barras and crocs in the same environment. Talk about a viscious circle.
Dave
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Follow Up By: handy - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 07:40
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 07:40
dave they dont eat mangrove roots they live amongst them
the nippers are only a defense thing.
dont know about barra eating them but big cod love them. cheers
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Aug 04, 2006 at 16:57
Friday, Aug 04, 2006 at 16:57
Muddies in
Brisbane ,no barra or crocs.
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Reply By: Kumunara (SA) - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:57
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 08:57
Jeff
To catch Mud Crabs all you need is a round crab net. Use some meet for bait. Donkey meat seems to work the best.
Have an esky in your boat filled with ice water. Drop them into the ice water and they instantly go to sleep and can be easily handled.
Do not try to touch them. Those nippers can cause severe damage to a finger. I normally pull the net up and turn it upside down. They will fall out into the esky and its as easy as that.
Keep a long piece of wire with a hook on the end and use that to pick them up if they fall on the boat floor instead of in the esky.
You don't say where you will be going to catch the mud crabs. Each state has different laws. Go the the govt web site and it should have the info there for you.
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 09:40
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 09:40
Kumunara, the best way for you to catch muddies is to walk around the creeks feeling them out with yout toes. That way, you are not polluting the creeks and the lizards couldn't fit you in their mouths. LOL
Where are you at the moment?
Home or up North?
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Follow Up By: scoof - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 11:00
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 11:00
Still here Des trying to make a buck.Couple months time heading up to
Lawn hill and
Karumba.Have you been up that way.
I recon you would know if you had one on yu toe , can you show me how first ,the Des way of catching muddy's, I'm a real quick learner.:-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 11:32
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 11:32
scoof,
I bought some at the cafe near the tavern at
Karumba poin this time laqst year.
Roughly $25 kg.
They also sell the pots you will need and would tell you how to fix it up.
A good bait is chicken frames (whole chicken in need )
Are you taking a boat?
Pedro
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Follow Up By: scoof - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 11:49
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 11:49
Pedro,
I'm not taking a boat, is that a problem .
I was thinking of throwing a net or two in of the bank.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 13:18
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 13:18
Scoof,
A boat obviously gives you more areas to target.
We stayed at the Point Caravan Park and to the left of the
boat ramp if you walk through the bush there would be
places you can put your pots among the mangroves.
There is usually plenty of bait at the fish cleaning tables in park so that won't be a problem.
There are lots of amateur crabbers around , so you should have no trouble finding the spots.
By the way make sure you see the sunset from the Tavern, a great spot to enjoy a coldie and see the view.
Good luck and enjoy.
Pedro
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Follow Up By: scoof - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 14:07
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 14:07
Pedro thanks for the tips,sitting at the Tavern to see the sunset , sound like something I could handle.
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 17:54
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 17:54
Scoof, I'd luv to be able to show you how but I'm stuck down south at the moment.
Was talking to Kumunara on the phone after I made my suggestions and he's up north so he could show you how. He reckons the Donkey bait is the best thing.
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Follow Up By: Member - jeff M (SA) - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 22:48
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 22:48
Hi Des
Have you been up that way.(
Karumba)If so what's it like ?
Also have you seen G/C since his big trip.Sounds like they had a ball.
Regards Scoof
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 23:29
Thursday, Aug 03, 2006 at 23:29
G'day Jeff, The Penny has dropped. LOL I didn't realise you were a member.
Ive spoken with Grant a number of times since he has returned.Didn't actually get to
Karumba when we were up that way due to a tyre problem but I was looking forward to having a feed of prawns and chips on
the wharf. Kumunara is from here too (
Berri) as
well as Blaze and Garbutt. We can have our own EO get together LOL
My son in law was living in
Darwin a few years ago and he would airfreight a feed of muddies every now and then but now he's in
Perth it don't happen no more as
well as being out of that part of the industry. Bugga.
Catch up later.
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Follow Up By: scoof - Friday, Aug 04, 2006 at 11:40
Friday, Aug 04, 2006 at 11:40
Des good morning , been a member for a couple months , this site is just what I need some days great laugh .
Scoof
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Reply By: Kumunara (SA) - Friday, Aug 04, 2006 at 13:33
Friday, Aug 04, 2006 at 13:33
Jeff M
Obviously Des has figured out who you are. I have an Idea but I am not sure.
Anyway I used to live in Aitken St
Berri until 2002 and have lived at at Winkie since then. My wife is up in
Katherine working and I am here on leave.
The info I gave you about how to catch mud crabs is from the times I have been to
Derby WA and gone mud crabbing. The bloke I go out mud crabbing is a fishing nut and has been catching them for 30+ years.
It is the method he uses and we filled up two 60 litre marine eskys. He uses a boat and goes in the creeks near
Derby.
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Follow Up By: scoof - Friday, Aug 04, 2006 at 15:51
Friday, Aug 04, 2006 at 15:51
Kumunara thanks for yu tip's I like the ice water trick , great idea to slow them down so I then could handle them to cookem.
Scoof
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