For the Astronomers

Submitted: Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 14:22
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Subject: the moon and mars

Planet Mars will be the brightest in the night sky starting next
August 2006.

It will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye.
This will culminate on Aug. 27 when Mars comes within 34.65 M miles
of Earth.

Be sure to watch the sky on Aug. 27 12:30 am.(ed: I don't know if this is AEST, Greenwich or what)

It will look like the Earth has 2 Moons. Don't Miss it.....
The next time Mars may come this close is in 2287.

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Reply By: Member - Bware (Tweed Valley) - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 14:25

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 14:25
I guarantee you that Mars will not be close enough to be as large as the full moon.

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Follow Up By: conman - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 15:16

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 15:16
haha, If mars looks as big as the moon, everyone start running...

should be some good king tides as well i'd say :-))
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Reply By: Member - Omaroo (NSW) - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 14:29

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 14:29
Uhmm... nope.

snopes:

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Mars Spectacular

Claim: The planet Mars will make a once-in-our-lifetimes remarkably close approach to Earth on 27 August 2006.

Status: False.

Examples: [Collected on the Internet, 2003]

The Red Planet is about to be spectacular! This month and next, Earth is catching up with Mars in an encounter that will culminate in the closest approach between the two planets in recorded history. The next time Mars may come this close is in 2287. Due to the way Jupiter's gravity tugs on Mars and perturbs its orbit, astronomers can only be certain that Mars has not come this close to Earth in the Last 5,000 years, but it may be as long as 60,000 years before it happens again.

The encounter will culminate on August 27th when Mars comes to within 34,649,589 miles of Earth and will be (next to the moon) the brightest object in the night sky. It will attain a magnitude of -2.9 and will appear 25.11 arc seconds wide. At a modest 75-power magnification Mars will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye. Mars will be easy to spot. At the beginning of August it will rise in the east at 10 p.m. and reach its azimuth at about 3 a.m.

By the end of August when the two planets are closest, Mars will rise at nightfall and reach its highest point in the sky at 12:30 a.m. That's pretty convenient to see something that no human being has seen in recorded history. So, mark your calendar at the beginning of August to see Mars grow progressively brighter and brighter throughout the month. Share this with your children and grandchildren. NO ONE ALIVE TODAY WILL EVER SEE THIS AGAIN

Origins: Some things never go out of style, and this "Mars Spectacular" message may be one of them. It's yet another example of a widely-circulated e-mail containing information that was once true but which continues to be forwarded around year after year, long after the information it contains has become outdated.

Mars did make an extraordinarily close approach to Earth several years ago, culminating on 27 August 2003, when the red planet came within 35 million miles (or 56 million kilometers) of Earth, its nearest approach to us in almost 60,000 years. At that time, Mars appeared approximately 6 times larger and 85 times brighter in the sky than it ordinarily does. (The message quoted above was often reproduced with an unfortunate line break in the middle of the second
sentence of the second paragraph, leaving some readers with the mistaken impression that Mars would "look as large as the full moon to the naked eye" and not realizing that the statement only applied to those viewing Mars through a scope with 75-power magnification.)

Although Mars' proximity to Earth in August 2003 (referred to as a perihelic opposition) was a rare occurrence, the red planet comes almost as near to us every 15 to 17 years. To the unaided observer, Mars' appearance in August 2003 wasn't significantly larger or brighter than it is during those much more common intervals of closeness.

Mars had another close encounter with Earth in in 2005, but that occurrence took place in October (not August), and the red planet appeared about 20% smaller than it did during similar circumstances in 2003.

As Texas astronomer Torvald Hessel observed in a 2006 interview about the perennial "Mars Spectacular" message:
Q: What's the truth?

A: Mars gets close to Earth every two years. So, last year, Mars was very close. Three years ago, it was spectacularly close ... And right now, I'm sad to say, Mars is actually behind the Sun; we can't see it at all.

Q: How wide spread is this falsehood?

A: People get excited about it, start to send e-mail ... and every August we see this e-mail coming back and I get a lot of e-mails about it, of course.
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Reply By: Troop-a-dour - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 14:31

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 14:31
UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE.....There's a rumor about Mars going around the internet. Here are some snippets from a widely-circulated email message:

"The Red Planet is about to be spectacular."

"Earth is catching up with Mars [for] the closest approach between the two planets in recorded history."

"On August 27th … Mars will look as large as the full moon."

And finally, "NO ONE ALIVE TODAY WILL EVER SEE THIS AGAIN."

Only the first sentence is true. The Red Planet is about to be spectacular. The rest is a hoax.

Here are the facts: Earth and Mars are converging for a close encounter this year on October 30th at 0319 Universal Time. Distance: 69 million kilometers. To the unaided eye, Mars will look like a bright red star, a pinprick of light, certainly not as wide as the full Moon.

Disappointed? Don't be. If Mars did come close enough to rival the Moon, its gravity would alter Earth's orbit and raise terrible tides.

Sixty-nine million km is good. At that distance, Mars shines brighter than anything else in the sky except the Sun, the Moon and Venus. The visual magnitude of Mars on Oct. 30, 2005, will be -2.3. Even inattentive sky watchers will notice it, rising at sundown and soaring overhead at midnight.

You might remember another encounter with Mars, about two years ago, on August 27, 2003. That was the closest in recorded history, by a whisker, and millions of people watched as the distance between Mars and Earth shrunk to 56 million km. This October's encounter, at 69 million km, is similar. To casual observers, Mars will seem about as bright and beautiful in 2005 as it was in 2003.

Although closest approach is still months away, Mars is already conspicuous in the early morning. Before the sun comes up, it's the brightest object in the eastern sky, really eye-catching. If you have a telescope, even a small one, point it at Mars. You can see the bright icy South Polar Cap and strange dark markings on the planet's surface.

Sorry about that....
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Reply By: Member No 1- Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 15:02

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 15:02
If my memory is correct it happen a few years back?

why do some not check these things out before they post

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Follow Up By: Troop-a-dour - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 15:08

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 15:08
Yes..I'm terribly sorry for not checking my facts before I posted. I realize now that it was very silly of me, and I will chastise and punish myself- if that will keep you happy!!
I also realize that I am not a perfect person, in what- to you- must be a perfect world.
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Follow Up By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 15:33

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 15:33
Troop-a-dour ,
I enjoyed reading it , even if it wasn't true . It was my bit of excitement in an otherwise very boring day .
Do not punish yourself too much .
Cheers ,
Willie .
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 16:40

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 16:40
Troop-a-dour

Twenty lashs with a cat of nine tails will be more than a sufficient punishment!

Old Baz likes staking tyres and things he may like to handle the cat.

Have fun,
Bob
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 19:22

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 19:22
Having a bad day Nudie?
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:35

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 20:35
jimbo, now that he has admitted he's wrong maybe he can bend over ....
so i can kick him eh?

just taking the mickey out of you troop a door....you could try to be like me...perfect..well almost
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 13:11

Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 13:11
As long as you use the wet celery

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Reply By: Vince NSW - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 15:35

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 15:35
This was Aug 27 LAST Year. Mars is very hard to see at the moment be\cause it is in fact on the other side of the SUN.
Not close to earth at all.
Check out the Anglo Australian Telescope site.
Vince
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 17:27

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 17:27
The same suggestion was made on July 29th in ths thread
Site Link
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Reply By: Scubaroo - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:56

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 21:56
Send an email reply to the wally who forwarded it to you, and CC everyone else they sent the same email to, pointing out they're "factually challenged" :o)
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Reply By: Mad Dog - Vic - Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 23:33

Monday, Aug 21, 2006 at 23:33
Thanks for the info. We have orgainsed a huge street part with people setting up chairs already. We shot an invite off to the local state MP and the radio station is setting up an outside broadcast for the big night.

Boy this will be one big night, thanks again.
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY VIC) - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 12:46

Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 12:46
Gday
What street are we supposed to come to??? I have my own chair and Esky
Muzbry
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 13:29

Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 13:29
anything for a peeesup eh?
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Reply By: Ray Bates - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 08:37

Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 08:37
It's a big hosk
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Reply By: Mr Fawlty - Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 13:30

Tuesday, Aug 22, 2006 at 13:30
So this is the ultimate urban myth, maybe the first extraterrestrial myth....Would have been good though, someone could have impersonated Orson Wells as the Martians landed....
Oh I'm running late, I'm having an Alien Implant removed this arvo....
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