Land Cruiser live axle

Standard and normally aspirated diesel GXL both come as Live Axle.

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4.2 litre turbo intercooled live axle

I know the Nissan has. I was interested in the turbo Toyota 'cos it may get better fuel consumption.

lol.. here we go again.

"...I was interested in the turbo Toyota 'cos it may get better fuel consumption...."

I can guarantee the Toyota will get good fuel consumption, about the same as a Corolla in fact...(being the loan car that you will learn to love while the LC is in for more broken parts to be repaired)

you wouldnt be implying that 100 series front diffs are soft would you Gary? lmao

About as soft as Kia front diffs..............

Re consumption, I did a trip Perth to the Pilbara about 3 years ago with my Patrol 4.2TD-T travelling in convoy with a 4.2 turbo Toyota LC GXL and a Rodeo petrol.
Both wagons were equally loaded, similar roof racks, neither towing. The LC consistently got about 2mpg better consumption than my Patrol at 110km/h.
Can't say what the Rodeo got, but we had to stop frequently to refill it.
Gerry.

What have I started!
I like Patrols, but the Toyota's engine is a bit more modern and should be more efficient.
2mpg, should that be kpg? Still significant.
thanks everyone for the info.

Twinkles,

The fuel is only a small part of the TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) equation. What you need to do is factor in all the things you can see that you may be needing, whather it be regular maintanance, through to an educated guess at parts that have a known "use by" date such as the front diffs on your beloved LC's, and prices of panels, insurance. The other thing to look at is the overall reliability of what you will purchase, would you really want to be stuck in Woop-Woop West with a dead diff? Needing a tow some hundreds of km to the nearest service center? Too many remote actuators on the LC's to go FUBAR.

GQ/GU Patrol have issues too, but they are well known and relatively easy to get around (extra cooling of the radiator, etc), and not necessarily going to stop you outright. Notable exception being the 3l TD engine...

Ah Gaz, now you did have to mention that 3l TD didnt you, look out !!! LOL Regards Steve M

A work Nissan ute(4.2 TD) has just done the turbo for the 2nd time, blew at 17000 km and now it has gone again at 105000 km.

Vehicle is serviced by Nissan every 5000 km as is required by Nissan because the vehicle is used off road (every 10000 km if you promise not to use it off the bitumen).

Regardless of anything else, the need to do extra services to an off road vehicle if you use it off road and the shocking turbo record has put me off considering a Nissan.

My GU 4.2 has been thru two turbos, but both merely leaked oil, not blow-ups. Both replaced under warranty, the first at about 90,000, the other about 8 weeks later. Regularly and meticulously serviced, if you can call Nissan servicing "meticulous".
Must admit, after two turbos and a gearbox, and disappointment with servicing, I'd have to reconsider what my next vehicle would be. I'm concerned about Toyota's record as well, tho.

to answer the question. no 100 series TD came out with live axles. The last td from Toyota to come out with live axles was the 80 series but with no intercooler. That applies only to station wagons. Both the current tojo ute and troopy come out with live axle and turbo but no intercooler

Thanks Trevor. What was the last year they were produced?

100 series came out in 1998 so I guess the last 80 series T/D was 1997!!Ment to be a great buy,stronger diffs and gearboxes.
These combo's are what people are putting in their HZJ105's.

You're right Nick. March 98 the 100 series was released (I think) and the turbo 80's with live axle were sold up to this date AFAIK.
I agree with what others say concerning gearbox strength in the 100 series N/A I have first hand experience with this sadly.

Cheers, Trevor.

Me thinketh the gearbox in the 80 series TD is the same as the HZJ105

No. HZJ105 (N/A diesel) has the smaller R151 Prado gearbox. The FZJ105 (petrol) model has the big H151 box that the 80 series and turbo diesels had. I think the front diff is a slightly different setup in the HZJ105 standard compared to everything else.

Why Toyota would make the drivetrain weaker on the diesel 105's is beyond me.

Brunswick Diesels will fit up a 6.5 Chev V8 direct to a live axle 80 or 105 series petrol because the gearbox, clutch and radiator will handle it fine. They require a lot more mods to convert the diesel model funnily enough.

Have heard of lots of failures but never spoken to more than a couple of people that have actually had them fail and most of them had a second failure shortly after.So were they dodgy repairs for the second rebuild or abused in the first place.
Also I wonder what the percentage of failures would be over all(there are lots of them out there).
If ours fail's Im planning on fitting a late model 80 seriesT/D after I fully rebuild it.

Beat me to it .

Needs coils on all four corners.

Yep, Phil's got it in one.
I wanted a Landcruiser wagon with live front axle and factory turbo diesel.
The only model in the whole range with this combination is the RV specification 5 seater Troop Carrier, the HDJ78.
The bonus is you get a Troopy and the H150F gearbox.

Geoff.

" Needs coils on all four corners."

Twinkles,
Go drive one. They have coil front springs, a long wheelbase and very very long rear leaf springs. The extra length makes a lot of difference. And the leaf springs handle more weight than the coils. It was a major improvement with the 78series in 1999.

What's the ride on the cab chasis like?

"What's the ride on the cab chasis like?"

Magic Carpet!!

The 78 and 79 Series Phil describes are streets ahead of the older all leaf Landcruisers.
I've owned a heap, an FJ40 (SWB), a HJ45 (Tabletop), a HJ47 (Troopy), HZJ105 (Base Wagon) and the pick of the crop, HDJ78 Troopy.
The HDJ78 wins on all fronts, ride, power, economy, useability, versatility and any other measure you can think of.
But hey, I'm biased Troopy's are the go for offroad touring.

Geoff.

Magic and also scary when that turbo kicks in . Never had a turbo before.
Our new 79 has just arrived and was supprised at power and comfort of new ute
even unladen.
Now for the fitout.

Big al

Thanks 120scruiser