Testing solar panel output.

Submitted: Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 01:06
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Testing solar panel output.

I am a bit challenged by this and was wondering if someone can help?

Open circuit voltage around 20 volts
Short circuit amperage about 5.5 amps

Sounds about right so far, but when I checked the voltage output during the short circuit amp test it was only 0.6 volts.

Does this mean something is a miss or would it be expected that solar panels will not maintain voltage when nearing the maximum output? (Short circuit output)

Regards
Spinifex
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Reply By: Member - pilbaradisco - Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 01:31

Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 01:31
Do a Google search on solar panel test's.

This is of the first site I found:-
To test a used solar panel, set your voltmeter to DC volts, and measure across the + and - terminals of the panel. This is called the "open-circuit voltage." A 12 volt panel should show about 21 volts in full sun. Panels designed to be connected in sets of 4 (4 panels in series) will show 4 to 5 volts. If your meter can measure DC amperes, set it for this (on a high enough range so your meter won't go up in smoke) and connect it between the + and - terminals in full sun. This measurement is called the short circuit current, and is how much current you can expect from the panels. For a 12 volt panel, multiply your current by 17 volts to get watts. (17 volts is the rated voltage of most 12 volt panels.)

Glen.
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Follow Up By: spinifex - Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 00:23

Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 00:23
Getting out of my depth, this happens when confidence overtakes ability.
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Reply By: Redeye - Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 07:01

Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 07:01
Hi Spinifex

What you did was correct. Amp meter straight across the output.

The aim is to measure the output current in the absence of a regulator. This will give you the maximum current that the pannel will deliver.

The opencircuit voltage has little bearing.

Redeye
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Follow Up By: Redeye - Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 07:03

Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 07:03
Oops
Spelling Panel should only have one 'nnnnnnnn'
Redeye
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 08:28

Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 08:28
These panel ratings relate to two different test - you do a test EITHER at open circuit OR at short circuit.

With a short circuit, the voltage output will, by definition be zero.

Unlike a battery, a solar panel is a constant current source. Whether you load it down to 15 volts or down to 0 volts, the current doesn't change a lot.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 08:30

Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 08:30
. . . . or the Phriday Phunny answer -

"Sounds about right so far, but when I checked the voltage output during the short circuit amp test it was only 0.6 volts. "
- that's because you are using a poor quality short-circuit, a good quality short circuit will produce 0 volts.
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Follow Up By: Redeye - Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 15:34

Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 15:34
Mike,

It cold also be because there is a diode in circuit.

Redeye
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 16:37

Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 16:37
If you measure the voltage across a diode connected across a solar panel - then it isn't a short-circuit test :-)

If there is a diode in side the solar panel connection box, then you won't measure the voltage before the diode - in an open circuit or short circuit test.
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Follow Up By: Redeye - Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 18:47

Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 18:47
True Mike,

If the test is being conducted on the battery leads I totally agree but of they are done inside on the terminal block I would be suspicious about terminals used.

Whenever I see 0.6 volts measured I always suspect a diode voltage drop.

Garry
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Reply By: greenant - Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 09:13

Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 09:13
Hi
this could be of help as well

This is an interesting article on solar panel charging on connecting up properly

Site Link

Greenant
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Reply By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 17:39

Saturday, Aug 26, 2006 at 17:39
Hi Spinifex

I know you are testing the panel, I hope you have a regulator to fit when you are done. Don't connect the panel direct to the battery with no regulator and don't short circuit the panel when it is connected to a regulator and battery.

Also follow the warnings on the panel. DC current is dangerous when you have a solar grid.

Just want to keep you safe.

Regards Derek
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Follow Up By: spinifex - Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 00:08

Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 00:08
Hi Derek

Thanks for the tips.

Yes, will be running a regulator and will only check amps in series when connected to the battery. (multi meter fuses are expensive :) )

Used your site to get some good info and purchased some items from you on EBay.

Many thanks
Regards
Spinifex
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Reply By: spinifex - Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 00:17

Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 00:17
Thanks for the replies

I can see now that my solar panels are OK. I was struggling with the concept of something providing amps but at zero volts. But as I was testing the current with a dead short I guess the short has removed the potential in the circuit.

Sorry if my terminology isn’t quite right, don’t have an electrical background.

So the 0.6 volt could indicate that there are diodes in the junction box, I always wondered if they were there.

Regards
Spinifex
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 11:00

Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 11:00
I assume the Panel has two wires coming out of it.

To do a short curcuit test connect an ammeter across the wires.

If you have a voltmeter and you measure the voltage across the ammeter at 0.6, you are just measuring the resistance of the ammeter.
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