camping stove flare ups

Submitted: Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 19:01
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Hi to all you forumites.
Do any of you out there have any problem with gas flare-ups especially in the mornings. We have an old Primus 2 burner stove hooked up direct to a 9 kg caravan sized bottle & use Boc gas. We have tried burning all gas in hose before turning off at night . I also fitted a regulator but wont even light when that is fitted.
Have spoken to all the so called experts but no one can give me a fix. If I cant find a fix soon the missus is gonna need a heart transplant. Hope somebody out there has got some ideas as ive exhausted all mine.
Cheers Bungarra
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Reply By: joc45 - Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 19:20

Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 19:20
Hi Bungarra,
The flare-up is usually due to gas condensing in the hose or pipe during cold periods, such as at night. Usually I find that shutting the gas off at night, plus arranging the hose so that it has no dips in it where liquified gas can pool seems to fix the problem.
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 19:30

Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 19:30
We had continual problems with this on our recent holiday. Turning of at the bottle didn't really work as the stove and lights were kept out at night. Biggest problem was that the stove jets blocked up. The gas light used to flare quite badly for a while. Also copped some dirty gas in Broome, another bloke I met said he got a bad fill in Kununurra.
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 19:19

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 19:19
How do you get 'dirty gas' - does it have a colour, what do I look for????
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 19:26

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 19:26
Lucy, the gas appeared to be very oily and caused blockages. When I got home I soaked the gets in acid and they are now better than they where originally.

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Follow Up By: joc45 - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 23:16

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 23:16
I should have added that with the last use at night, I shut the gas off at the bottle before turning it off at the burner, and let the gas drain from the hose.
In the morning, because the cooled gas is more prone to liquefying, don't turn the gas on at the bottle until just before you're ready to light the burner. Even after a few minutes, the gas can liquefy in the hose and stove if the burners are not running.
A full bottle will always give more flaring than a partially consumed bottle.
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Reply By: Larry01 - Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 20:18

Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 20:18
I would suggest replacing the jets. Has this only happened since you put on a full (new fill) gas bottle ?

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Reply By: Member - Gecko (WA) - Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 20:37

Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 20:37
I have had exactly the same problem and did last week talk to a gentleman running a smaller camping store, Basically it is condensing in the line but turning it off at night wont fix it, it needs to go off after every use! your stove is designed as a high pressure stove and to use a regulator you would need to convert it to a low pressure stove, its easier to turn it off I was told "after you boil the last water for your after meal cuppa turn it off and this will prevent it" this did "fix" my problem this weekend
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 21:20

Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 21:20
We had the same problem off and on for years. Tried a few things but all to no avail.

We were told it was the jets and that replacing them would fix the problem but we were unable to source the right jets for that particular model stove.

Earlier this year we fixed the problem by purchasing a new low pressure stove. It boild the billy quicker and we don't get flare ups. Cost about $60.00

Duncs
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Reply By: Richard & Leonie - Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 21:30

Sunday, Aug 27, 2006 at 21:30
We had the same problem with an old Primus two burner stove, It worked fine for 10 years and then suddenly started to flare up morning, noon and night. Replaced the jets, didn't help. Ended up dicing it and buying a new stove. The new one has a regulator on it. I do not know if this makes a difference. Certainly it does not burn as hot as the old one.
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Follow Up By: Squizzy - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:23

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:23
We had the same problem R & L, but we opted a few years ago for a cast iron two burner stove with a regulated hose and we have been impressed.

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Reply By: Member No 1- Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:31

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 11:31
i have not had a problem since i took the following steps:

Always turn off at the bottle and let the cooker or light burn out.
Fit a little cotton wool behind the jets to act as filters.

Rational.
The gas condenses overnight. The liquid enters the burner and it flares up.

The liquid acting as a scourer also washes the internal piping and carries the dust etc into the jets.

Some others say the jets block up from foreign matter depositing itself on the jet face caused by an eddy current created by the gas vapour leaving the jet. I cannot say that this does not happen other than to say I have never had another problem since I did the two thingies above.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 12:18

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 12:18
The Primus stove relies on the jets to control the flow of gas. (High Pressure)
Stoves like the Coleman use a regulator. (Low pressure)

The best solution of all is to dice the Primus and buy a Coleman 2 burner.
Both burners are controllable from a low simmer to full burn and there is no jets to become blocked.
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Follow Up By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 30, 2006 at 20:55

Wednesday, Aug 30, 2006 at 20:55
Agree totally. Used to swear by my Primus. Recently started swearing AT it cause of flare-ups. Sold on eBay, bought a Coleman (on eBay, half retail price).

All's good now ;-)
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Reply By: cowpat - Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 21:13

Monday, Aug 28, 2006 at 21:13
I don't know a fix but right after I bought two 3.3 kg Primus bottles to replace the cheapo 1.25 kg Kmart Jackaroo bottle the stove started flaring up almost all of the time when starting. Current solution is to not worry about it.

I have an old (really old) Couger 2-burner stove. I have used it for 15 years. The stove has never flared up before, and I've never used Primus bottles before, nor anything larger than 2 kg. Maybe it's somehow related to bottle size or the brand/type of valve? Casper
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