Roof console - 100 Series

Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 08:03
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Has anyone here installed a roof console into a 100 Series? Is any cutting of the roof lining required and any issues running the coax and cable to a UHF radio via the side pillar ?

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Reply By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 08:23

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 08:23
Can't answer the question about the roof console, but I have mounted my Uniden UH013? with the box in the head lining on a "Z-shaped" bracket off the rear vision mirror (behind the head lining), and the console screwed to same bracket through the headlining.

There is plenty of space in the driver's A pillar and around the space above the windscreen for the coax and power.

In my case, the speaker works fine behind the head lining too.

Ciao for now
Andrew.
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Reply By: P.G. (Tas) - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:31

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:31
Hi Jack

Just a point to ponder. I was going down the roof console track in my GU Patrol until I was advised by a radio specialist, that a roof console can be the worst place for any radio to live in.

Apparently enclosed radios in roof consoles can get VERY hot (well past their design operating parameters) due to lack of air flow, and the fact they are only a few millimetres from the tin roof, especially when parked in the sun. The warmer the weather, the worse the situation becomes.

Not sure if there is any basis in fact, just passing on why I didn't persue one.

Cheers,

Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:37

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:37
Hi Peter,

I hear what you say about the temperature, but for 3 years now I have my Barrett 550 head unit, GME UHF and a DVD player mounted in my roof console and they have never missed a beat.

Having a roof console keeps the dash area uncluttered and original looking and simply makes good sense IMHO. Plus the fact that no holes need to be drilled makes removal down the track too easy.

Cheers

Captain
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Follow Up By: P.G. (Tas) - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:53

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:53
G'day Captain,

After I got your follow up, I rang my radio tech again and he told me the following.

"If a radio, or anyother piece of electronic equipment is operated outside of their design parameters it voids all warranty's. Furthermore, the manufacturer's specifications for the units will never be achieved if the unit is over heated, ie, no transceiver will operate at full output if it is overheating and performance may be cut by 60% or more. He suggested that if you returned to a vehicle that has been parked in the sun, open the windows and turn the A/C on until you are comfortable before operating any of the consumer electronics you have fitted".

Just trivial information I know, butworth knowing.

I know what you mean about drilling holes in a new vehicle. I ended up taking the double din radio/CD out of the dash and replaced it with a single din unit with the GME UHF under it in mine.

Cheers,

Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:01

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:01
I'd expect that there are very similar temperatures in a roof console as the dash console.
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Follow Up By: P.G. (Tas) - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:19

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:19
G'day Andrew,

Apparently not. Hot air rises and sits at roof level. From what I worked most roof consoles I looked at do not have ventilation holes in them.

They look very neat in their installation and concept, perhaps mounting a small 12V computer type fan or 2 in there somewhere would resolve all the issues.

Cheers,

Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:25

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:25
zero ventilation around the dash too - try putting your hands up there on a hot day!
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:25

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 12:25
Hi Peter,

While hot air does rise, the temperature gradient within a closed vehicle would be minimal. Also, because they are roof mounted, they never recieve direct sunshine unlike a dash mount on certain angles.

I have never had my radios feel hotter than the ambient temp in the car (which can be very hot in the sun with windows up) unlike my dash radio which has had buttons almost too hot to touch when direct sunshine has been on them.

But overall I don't think temperature is really a critical factor in roof mount vs wherever. Simply finding enough real estate in todays vehicles for HF, UHF and DVD makes a roof console the only practical way IMHO.

Cheers

Captain
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Reply By: Gerry - Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 17:36

Tuesday, Aug 29, 2006 at 17:36
Hi Jack,
Have one in my 100 series. No problems in fitting as it uses the rear view mirror mount along with the interior light mountings. The coax and power leads can be hidden behind the plastic trim on the windscreen pillar and then guided through above the roof lining, either to where the mirror is or to the light location. The alternative to running a new power lead is to use the constant 12v feed to the interior light circuit - this is what mine does with no problems whatsoever. The radio has never gotten excessively hot and if you wanted to remove the console at a later date, then everything would be back as it was and noone would ever know.
Cheers
Gerry
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