Satelitte Phones and internet access

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:03
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As you may be aware, we are about to embark on the trip around Oz for a year or two. We have been granted a subsidy for a satellite phone and was wondering whether this would be a valuable thing to get as we will be travelling to remaote areas. Also, what would you suggest for internet access when we are on the road. There are so many options and costs that I am unable to work out what would be best for us and what would be a reasonable cost for me to expect.
Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated as even though I am computer literate and seem to be keeping up wit the technology this seems to be a bit confusing.
Thanks in advance
Jennifer
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Reply By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:33

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:33
Several options for net access include:

- Public Libraries (generally free, bookings may be required, short time use)
- Internet Cafes (variable, normally <$8/hr, can be free with food purchase)
- McDonalds (need a laptop and WiFi, ~$12/hr pro-rata sent to Telstra phone account, slightly more if not)
- Friends (free, just need to make some and ask :-))

Cafes and libraries are probably the best for technology challenged individuals ;-)

The sat phone will be useful, like most things, once you have it, you will tend to use it more than expected :-)

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:38

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:38
plus check out some of the info on this site under "On the Road" ==> "communications" ==> "online on the road".

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Reply By: Visitor - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:34

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:34
A satphone is a must if you can get subsidy..
Most decent caravanparks have an outlet of which you can plug in your notebook..
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Reply By: Member - Ian S (NT) - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:44

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:44
Hi Jennifer,

I have a Globalstar Sat/CDMA Qualcomm phone under the subsidy scheme with a in-car kit. Works well, acquires signal really well but does occassionally drop out. The internet connection is 9.6k, real slow and even with compression would just handle emails and is an expensive connection. Globalstar don't have access to the Telstra technology at present which we have used with a Kyocera CDMA phone. Excellent service and you can purchase data only at $29 or $49 per month where you can access up to 163K speeds in burst mode but get charged 15 mins for each call. You need to be organised with your pre-written emails waiting in the outbox. CDMA will eventually go and there is a void waiting to see what G3 service supercedes it.

Out here at Mt Dare and much of the remote areas, there is no other cover than satellite. On the bitumen track around Aus to CDMA cover is extensive.

Hope this helps.
Regards
Ian@Mt Dare
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Follow Up By: jennifer78 - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 11:11

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 11:11
Hi Ian,

We were lookingt at getting the Qual Comm 1600 with Globalstar. Should I look at a different provider that will be cheaper for internet connection and monthly rates?

jennifer
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Follow Up By: Member - Ian S (NT) - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 13:20

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 13:20
Hi Jennifer,

I would investigate any Telstra combined Sat/CDMA offer they may have as they have the only fast CDMA access and is a fabulous service. Personally I would run the Sat and CDMA if I was back on the road as much as we were.
Cheers
Ian@Mt Dare
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Reply By: Member - Michael J (SA) - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 11:18

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 11:18
Hi Jennifer,

Do not want to hi-jack your post, but as we intend to do a similar trip hopefully before too long would you mind letting me know just how you worded your application to enable you to get the subsidy.

I am aware that the application is online and that the offer will close within the next few months.

I really need to apply soon but do not want to 'muck it up'

--and I will watch the rest of this thread with interest....

Cheers
Michael
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Follow Up By: jennifer78 - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 11:48

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 11:48
Good Morning Michael,

Our advantage of having the subsidy granted was the timing of the application and that my husband is a builder with a business name.

I know that the application process was changed on the 1st of July however when I submitted the application I stated that the reason for the satellite phone was that my husband Michael would be working in remote areas of Australia in the building industry.
We also have friends that are currently travelling that also received the subsidy however they too have a small business in fishing and gaming and i believe that this is why they were also approved.

If the requirement for a satellite phone is for work in remote areas I believe that the application wil be looked at favourably. I stated areas that we would be travelling that have no CDMA coverage - this can be found on any of the providers websites (eg Telstra) Michael will be working in Mount ISa and surrounding areas and it is the surrounding towns that have no coverage.

I hope that this works -
Jennifer
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Follow Up By: Member - Michael J (SA) - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 11:58

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 11:58
Thank you for that Jennifer,

Guess I will be 'working' to support our travel......lol

Michael
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 13:37

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 13:37
Gday Michael,

When I got my subsidy, I was advised that an av. of 4 days per week out of coverage was very favourable, along with being a member of a FESA organisation - in my case voulenteer marine rescue, and the working thing mentioned above. Aparently a few up here that put 3 days on their aplication didn't get the full subsidy.

I was fortunate enough not to have to outright lie to qualify - but a bit of stretching doesn't hurt. Aparently the only check the gov does is random calls to phones to ensure you haven't got the $1500 subsidy, bought a $2000 phone and sold it for a profit. I haven't been called, and don't know anyone who has.

Cheers Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Michael J (SA) - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 14:21

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 14:21
Thanks Andrew,

I intend to apply soon, and will do so on-line. Our departure date for travel is dependant on the sale of our business, may be a few months but could be 12months or more.

As we live in the country already we know only too well the need for good comms.

Just want to cover as many bases as possible prior to application.

$1500.oo is a fair bit to miss out on.

Thanks again
Michael
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Reply By: Member - Phantom (WA) - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 11:42

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 11:42
Hi Jen,
You will find the Satellite fantastic. Not for its features etc but just for the peace of mind it brings. I have been with Globalstar for over 5 years and pay $25.00 per month. You can get an exemption for up to 3 months but you have to nominate which months. I have found them great to deal with and reception has been excellent wherever we have been. ( others will tell you otherwise).
For my internet, I pay $5/month to my ISP and have a dial up connection anywhere in Australia for a local call BUT have to plug into a phone line (not always readily available!!) but useful for the cost.
You can also contact Tesltra who have a range of option plans for hooking up to your phone and downloading. Some are quite reasonable and can be done regularly in towns with reception with CDMA coverage. As commented above, to do this with Sat phone is slow and expensive.
Regards
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 13:23

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 13:23
The satphone options for internet and email are really too expensive and slow to be bothered with. I gave up on proceeding down this track.

The most affordable way of owning a satphone for infrequent calls and emergency peace of mind is to pick up a second hand Motorola 9500 or 9505 and put a regular Telstra digital SIM card in it which has been set up for international roaming (free service you ask Telstra for).

This means you can have either your normal phone SIM card with no need for a new account and no charge unless you use it, or you can do as I do and set up a $10 plan to get a new number which you can leave in the phone.

Far cheaper than Satphone plans which start at $30 a month and for the $240 a year saved you can make quite a few calls at the slightly higher call rate charged ($3 a minute) and still be well in front. (You pay $2 a minute on the $30 satphone plan.)

Depending on what you get by way of second hand price this is still cheaper than the subsidy the way 9500 prices are going.

The only downside is paying to recieve calls but this can work out cheaper also. If the kids are calling from home for example and they don't have a home phone with Telstra (eg. AAPT, Primus, etc) the calls to the variety of Satphone providers can be as high as $20 a minute. Calls to the method I'm suggesting are charged at normal mobile rates and you pay to receive the call at the same rate as if you made it.

If you really want a Satphone for emergency/infrequent use this is definately the way to do it.

Dave

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Follow Up By: JAS095 - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 17:37

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 17:37
Can you tell me if you bought a one of the above mentioned phones from overseas would it work here ?

Thanks
Jason
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 20:24

Thursday, Aug 31, 2006 at 20:24
It would, but beware as they are a popular item for Ebay fraudsters to use to target the unsuspecting.

This is because they are high dollar value and compact enough that people are prepared to bid on international items making it harder to deal with when it comes to Ebay and Police trying to target the criminal.

There is a noted fraudster who uses various id's with good feedback history, but for reasons unknown always uses the location Bergamo, Italy.

Buyer beware,

Dave
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