Roll overs and vibrations

Michael
Tried to post a follow up earlier . It disappeared!
I don't think the cargo barriers are bulky enough. They may stop stuff hitting you in the head but not squashing you in a vertical direction .Ouch
With mavs/GQ check all window electrics, most suffer here.Pull up the front carpet and look for water ingression/rust.Pull out the Tail lights (easy) and look for lots of water(one side had 4 Litres) and rust.Check rear barn doors under the bottom of the rubbers for rust . found some there.Had some splitting under one rear wheel arch seam between the quarter panel and main body. Easy fixed by scraping out the compound and replacing with Sikaflex.They can split the seam between the firewall and floor pan , not the case with mine.Look under the body for major dents in the floor pan and sills . this is a pretty good indication of the type of driving it has done.Diesel motor is less prone to ware than petrol.Get it checked out mechanically.Problems only surface once you have payed. How much are you looking at spending? Im sure there was more in my first follow up but I just cant remember.And yes expect drivers and rear barn door hinges to be worn.
Niffty

Thanks for that Niffty,

Going to have a good look today, car yard price just under 10k but research tells me that there is a 'bit of fat' built into that price..just have to see what happens.

Cheers
Michael

Michael
If you do get the Mav I have thought of a few other things you may want to rectify to stop water entry.Its my pet hate. BTW I paid $6.500 for mine and its done 200,000 KM Td 42 engine.Its in real good shape body wise with ARB bull bar/side steps,2 brand new BFG 33 12.5 inch tyres, others are about 50% worn.Had to sort out the exhaust as it was loose and few other maintenance things ETC.Just post a follow up.
Good luck
Niffty

Yep I remember seeing a picture on this forum a few weeks ago.But it still worries me!and I don't want to be the one to do the crash test dummy job.I will contact the supplier for some tech info.And then price a roll bar which could still be used as a dual purpose roll bar cargo barrier.
niffty

YEs they help...if fitted properly, but they r not designed for that. Their sole purpose is to stop things hitting u in the head incase of a front on collision or hard braking.

Ange is on the money.... they are NOT designed for that, but as I said, I have seen first hand that they do help! Don't depend your life on it though....

Thanks Robin
When you refer to the C pillar I assume that's the pillar between the front and back doors?I have a tracklander roof rack which is a fantastic piece of gear but only fit this to the Truck for longer trips. The rack only has 3 sets of legs and I place the centre legs over the C? pillar so most of the weight is between both axle's.A good idea?
Niffty

Hi Nifty
No thats the second pillar or "B" pillar. C pillar is 3rd one more or less in line with back of passenger seat.

Yes put all heavy things between the axle's, good idea.

The real problem is that emergency issues tend to see people braking hard and getting offline , as car gets offline (back coming out) weight at rear causes twisting action which is bad news.
However to make things worse the twisting action occurs around the cars roll centre axis which is above the axles and generally higher at the rear for loaded
wagons, hence you roll as you twist.

On some types of vehicles (good example is small buses- not dissimilar to 4wd wagons) the vehicle design has become such a disgrace that passengers are
banned from using seats behind the rear axle by USA saftey organizations and others.

The long wheelbase of Patrols helps in this area.

Robin Miller

Thanks Robin
Very informative post.I had considered some of the points you raised a while back and removed the the 3rd row seats of the wagon.My main reasons being they wasted space(and higher level added weight) and I was trying to compensate for the huge long range tank fitted.I normally only carry 75-100 for day to day purposes, not long range off road.The tank is situated quite low in reference to the rear axles (roll axis) but I can see the potential pendulum affect when getting out of shape(off line).These factors kept in the back of the mind can help greatly when such situations may occur.
Thanks
Niffty