How good was the Sandown 500?

Submitted: Sunday, Sep 03, 2006 at 21:10
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What a fascinating race. Lowndes crew got it all wrong with the pit stops but he came charging through and with a bit of luck with the pace car was a real chance with 30 laps to go. I fear Craig used up his resources in the chase and couldn't finish it off in the last 15 laps.

Skaife had it parcelled up until he has suspension failure. They fixed it and he rejoined the race, many laps down.

The most amusing thing for me, and the commentators didn't get it, was that whilst Bright and Kelly were going hammer and tongs for it in the lead, Skaife had caught them and meandered along behind them as they went to the finish.

Being the gentleman he is, Skaife didn't upset the battle, just coasted behind them.

For mine, Skaife and Lowndes are the best we have seen since Moffat and Brock.

I don't have a brand loyalty, I just love the sport.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Sunday, Sep 03, 2006 at 22:28

Sunday, Sep 03, 2006 at 22:28
Yes agree, and while the Indy 500, NASCAR,the formula 1,Moto GP, and the fabulous Rally's etc are great sports Australia's V8 Supercars are unique, and there is nothing anywhere else in the world like Bathurst,

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Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 06:58

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 06:58
I'm not much of a petrol head, but it is a great series and great cars. Aparently (been told this by people who have witnessed it) when the F1 and Indy cars are in aust. The mechanics etc run to the fence when the V8's first go out and practice - dropping comments like "now thats what a race car is supposed to sound like" etc. Most of the meets they go to probably have turbo 4's and 6's in touring car form for support races.

to quote an oldish ad (Ithink it was by GMH when Ford stopped putting them in XE's - "there's nothing quite like a V8"

Cheers Andrew

PS didn't see the second race From Assen last night - but racing a 'bike in that kind of weather would be near on impossible in my book. When I had a bike, if it rained Grandma's would overtake me!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 07:47

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 07:47
actually racing on Wets (wet slicks) is awesome, they feel like bubble gum.. fair enough I was only on a local built superbike, but it was fun.... maybe an MX/dirttrack background helped a little. :D
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 07:59

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 07:59
I never spent much time on Roadbikes - they scared me - felt tooo good banked over on the gas with rear stepping out a little. I gave 'em up early, mainly rode trailbikes but I was one of those people that got hurt (dislocated shoulders, Medial ligaments etc) everytime I came off.

One of the first superbike races I saw was years back when Anthony Gobert on a Kwaka broke down in the first race and won the second race at Laguna Sayca (spelling!). Gave me goosebumps, riding an inferior bike all around the top guys like a speedway bike. Pitty his career didn't reach its full potential. Gary Mcoy also did things on a Racebike that would make Guys like Einstein and Newton re-think some of their theories!

The tyres would play a major role. I think it was Kevin Magee commentating (may have been Darryl Beattie), and he was saying a wet race is easier physically, but the mental equivelant of 3 races in concerntration.

Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Ivan H (NSW) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 09:40

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 09:40
Skaife has been doing a few things the right way recently, good on him; although he still has a long way to go before he wins the respect he once had back.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Lowndes and Whinicup go at Bathurst, I think they are Fords best chance to stop Holden making it 8 years in a row...
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Reply By: Pavo - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 10:16

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 10:16
It was awesome. That a race can go for 161 laps and have such a duel at the end for first is brilliant.

The commentators point out how the pace car helped Lowndes, but the first pace car period helped lots of people too.

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Reply By: Robin - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 10:19

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 10:19
It was a great race alright Jimbo. My son was at track but I watched it on TV
and I think I got more out of it as trackside commentary was non-existant
near corner 9 and he got a lot out of watching the replay.

I also enjoyed the lead duel with Tander holding under pressure hanging on every turn.

But I just have to tell you a little story though as it was only hours
before when we got even more excitment out of our own little local Knox
motocross race day event.

My son has just turned 16 and hence got kicked up to race against the seniors for
the first time and was put into B grade (there are a,b,c grades in motocross).

Nervous and tensed up as all hell he was, and so were the parents as big boys can be rough.

Insufficent riders meant that they then combined the "A" and "B" graders and
all of a sudden my 4th former was lined up next to a full race prepared factory
team KTM with big name rider on our stock yz250, in his first senoir race.

Flag dropped and by end of main straight factory bike was so much faster
it was lengths ahead. The kid isn't to bad though and by mid race, had all his
own class behind him and most of "A" grade as well, but factory bike was
almost out of sight and the length of the main straight ahead.

Then something intermittant seemed to happen to factory bike and it slowed right
down for few seconds and my son passed him.
Then it going again and did we see some seriously expert riding.

I mean, you can't have 4th former on his first play with the big kids
on stock bike in front of factory team.
Onto last lap now and factory bike hammered down straight gaining heavily on
our bike and he put it into full lockup under brakes in an attempt to slide in
and block pass the kid by force.
But he was about 2 meters short.
We were nearly having a heart attack, but then realised that our son
would simply be passed now and not pushed out.
As factory bike was recovering from its full lock slide, something happened
and it just stopped. Apparently the stress and frame twist under the effort
pulled the ignition wire off ,leaving my son to cross finish line in front
to the amazement of many there.

And all this was free entertainment, or maybe that was free stress.

Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: Browny66 - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 17:30

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 17:30
Robin,
Ripper story.......Well done to the young bloke!

I've got a four year old and i get goose bumps watching him have a kick in the back yard while i do my best Dennis Commetti impersonations.

Sorry bout the hijack Jimbo!

Cheers.....Browny
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 18:17

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 18:17
Robin, what a ripper of a yarn, great to hear. Bodes well for his future deeds..........
Good luck for the future for your son.
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 22:02

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 22:02
Robin,

Stuff like that is what being a parent is all about. You're a proud Dad.

Great tale, wish the boy well from me. Sounds like he's got plenty of guts and not one to be overwhelmed the big occasion.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Reply By: Stuw - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 14:35

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 14:35
If Lowndes had stayed with HRT, what a domination Holden would have been on V8 Supercars!

Skaife could have quite a few Bathurst victories by the time he reitres, not to the same level as Brock, but probably the second most decorated driver.

On the weekend I watch some nostaligic footage on a DVD - The Holden Dealer Team. Going cheap at KMart. Next weekend I've got another DVD lined up The Commoderes of 1979 to 1983.
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 18:22

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 18:22
Stuw, what if Brighty had stayed with Holden and not gone to the dark side?
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Follow Up By: Stuw - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:10

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:10
The blue side! hmmm... yes Brighty is a good driver too...
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Follow Up By: Joombi - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:38

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:38
I got a DVD of Brocky in the HDT Torana's, would love to have been there for the 79 Bathurst. Brocky got pole in his A9X, lead all the way, won by 6 laps & set a new lap record on the last lap.
will get the Commodores 79-83 as well
Dead right, if Lounds would have stayed with HRT, I think stone brothers would have a mountianous task.
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Reply By: allanmac856 - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 12:26

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 12:26
Been a fan for many years & reckon Lowndes's drive was almost the equal of his drive in Adelaide some years back when he came from back of grid to win race, (driving for HRT).

Team made a bad call call re pit stop, but wanted Craig to do the double stint so had to keep Jamie out there to complete the minimum laps. Thought they were going to get out of jail when the Garry Rogers car hit the fence on back straight, but no pace car ?

Yes the HRT car was quick, & I dont believe Skaiffe can shoulder any of the blame for its mechanical failure. Tander was going 10/10ths, jumping kerbs etc 1stly to catch the betta electrical car then get a good lead. No doubt the kerb hopping contributed to the problem.

Anyway, Bathurst is going to be a great race. GO LOWNDSIE!

The Betta Electrical may not be the quickest car out there, but is probably the most reliable one.

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Reply By: Member - Darren T (VIC) - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 21:51

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 21:51
Was in Melb over the weekend for work, was close enoung to hear the V8`s, but unfortunately didnt see a single second of any of the racing either live or on TV :(

Was a great day from what I hear.

Bring on Bathurst....GO THE HOLDENS.
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