Biodiesel in SA

Submitted: Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 12:17
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For those that needed monetary incentive to start using Biodiesel ...

Now, you get 10c a litre off the current Fossil Fuel Biodiesel price at SAFF outlets.

I don't know whether this is a long term strategy or just a short term on to get folks engaged and to experience it, but it is good for me.

As well as the two SAFF outlets at Pooraka and Salisbury B100 (100% biodiesel) is now also available at Tailem Bend and Upper Sturt.

Ciao for now
Andrew.
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Reply By: jdpatrol - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 17:56

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 17:56
Thanks Andrew
Will check it out.
JD
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Reply By: troopmaster - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:50

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:50
Stoopid question,

Do i use this bio diesel as per "normal" diesel?
Any need for precautions towards the engine or pump?

10c per litre cheaper sounds great!
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 22:16

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 22:16
I haven't used it either, but would like to have the opportunity to do so. Others have reported that you need to change fuel filters a few times in the early stages as the bio lossens up a lot of crud in the tank and lines.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:02

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:02
Yes, you will probably need to replace a fuel filter after the first few tanks as the biodiesel is a better solvent than diesel and cleans sediments or deposits from years of fossil fuel use in your fuel system.

It is not hard to do, and filters are available from reputable australian sellers on eBay quite inexpensive (I buy a full set for $45 inc. postage for my 1HZ).

If you time your start well, you could have it done at a service which was due anyway.

I suggest you look at www.biofuelsforum.com for more info.

Other than that, it burns cleaner, pretty similar calorific value to diesel, and with the better lubricating qualities tends to make for quieter running too.

I hope that helps
Andrew.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:39

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:39
Yeah that's the theory, mind you I've been using B100 exclusivly since the start of the year and done well over 10,000kms on it, the fuel filter has done over 20k and still is fine (I will replce it next service because it's due). Never had a problem...
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:02

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:02
you do want to keep a watch on it Jeff.

The first spell of 43 degree days and long running might change the situation ;-)
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Reply By: Barnesy - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 00:57

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 00:57
Andrew, hoping SAFF whyalla do the same thing. $9 a tank i would save. Hoping they also bring in 100% as it's only 20% at the moment.

Yeh Roachie my TD42 runs better on the 20% and you do need to change fuel filters after 1 or 2 tanks but after that you cruise on the stuff. By the way thanks for the info a while ago on bypass oil filters. Will be getting one shortly.
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Follow Up By: troopmaster - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 06:00

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 06:00
MMMMM, i would like to know more on this BioDeisel.

No problems with injector pumps, or injectors?
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:08

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 08:08
Hi Barnesy,

I'd suggest making your interest known to SAFF Whyalla, and to SAFF head office in Adelaide - they may even tell you their plans.

Troopmaster - no problems with pumps or injectors.

There can be problems with the rubbers in OLDER (I think pre-92) fuel systems ... it is described in the SAFF brochure here:

http://www.farmersfuel.com.au/Biofuels/Biodiesel/Switching%20to%20Biodiesel.pdf

You would have the same problems with Low Sulpher Diesel.

All the best,
Andrew.
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Follow Up By: Barnesy - Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 00:45

Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 00:45
Troop, no probs with injectors or pumps. Engine is smoother, quieter, blows no smoke anymore and the tappets don't make ANY noise anymore. The only problem i have is that it isn't widely available enough. Find out more about it, it's great stuff.
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Reply By: Member - Grahame (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 23:56

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 23:56
Hi there,
with nowhere around Brisbane central to buy biodiesel ive started making it myself in my garage and have been using it for one week and it is going ok so far. There is heaps of info on the journeytoforever website and the book "From the fryer to the". As you have mentioned older vehicles might have problems with rubber parts more modern vehicles now using Viton materials and the fuel filters also need watching. The feeling of helping the environment and the savings is great. The fumes smell is a lot better as well.
I am going for a Simpson French line Crossing using 100% biodiesel at the end of the month.
Has anyone done it already?
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 00:04

Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 00:04
Hi there Grahame,

Look out for me in the Simpson - I'll be there for the Simpson Desert Cycle Challenge 26th-30th then heading across to Brissy.

The SDCC does the Rig Road and inside track of the Birdsville Track rather than the French Line (Purnie Bore to B'ville), but I'll keep my eye out for your before and after. We'll be gathering at Dalhousie on the Sunday night.

That said, my Biodiesel will run out by the time I get to Oodnadatta, damn it unless I start towing a fuel tanker. As it is the truck is going to be 3600+ kg - how are you taking your fuel? Are you putting the reactor on the roof rack and making it as you go?

Ciao for now
Andrew.
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