suspension

Submitted: Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 12:54
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Hi everyone,
I am looking for any advice for suspension setup for 99 model prado.

We have just come back from taking our two boys to visit friends at longreach QLD, & have been infected by the travelling bug,due to the fantastic time we had.

While we towed a pop top camper this time,we are looking at loading up the prado with a touring tent etc for our next trip.

we may want to venture off the beaten track a little bit too.

If anyone has had any experience upgrading a prado's suspension,or could suggest an appropriate suspension kit etc that they may have used,this would be greatly appreciated.

I am a newcomer to the site,& have found it excellent.

Thankyou.

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Reply By: MAVERICK(WA) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 15:49

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 15:49
to make it easier and simpler take your vehicle to one of the 'major' players in the 4wd game and tell them honestly what your intentions are and what the likely load to be carried will be - and be honest or you will end up getting a system that won't work for you. any of arb / tjm / ore / opposite lock or the others will be suitable for your needs. also have a talk to the toyota landcruiser club in your state as they will have some experience (or any club for that matter). it is nice to see another victim of the 'get there and enjoy this country' bug. rgds
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Follow Up By: grunter - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 16:11

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 16:11
Thanks Maverick,good advice.maybe see you out on the road somewhere!
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Reply By: Member - Ivan (ACT) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 18:45

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 18:45
www.lcool.org is great for any cruiser including the Prado - there is also a 90 series specific list which will be of interest for you.

I don't believe in the 4wd shop approach - they will sell you what they have on their books - often far from the best option.

You will get good first hand advice through the link above
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Follow Up By: Tim@Stratford - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:36

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:36
I agree with Ivan - go to the LCOOL site and join up - great info specific for 'Cruisers and Prados.

I'm off to Darren's (ATS4x4) on Thursday - the whole kit and caboodle re Suspension for the 100s GXL IFS.

Tim
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Follow Up By: Member - Ivan (ACT) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:42

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:42
Say g'day to the Big OAF - he'll know who it's from ;-)

I already have what you're getting fitted - money well spent - you'll be very happy I'm sure.

See Site Link for more
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Follow Up By: Tim@Stratford - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:59

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:59
Ivan, will do.

I should have attended the ACT weekend to have it done. Would have been easier.

Working until midnight Wednesday then early start Thursday to get to Geelong by 8:30am - the things we do for our fourbies.....

I followed Darren's suggestion for Thursday - Shed night!!! - Might have to throw the swag in....
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:02

Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 19:02
There are a few brands for the 90series that have had problems with the lower front strut bush. The factory struts have been OK. Factory shocks are also much cheaper than aftermarket, and are Japanese quality.

If reliability is a priority, then my preference was to run the factory shocks all round and heavier duty, lifted springs. Did me well on the roughest trips and the most corrugated roads over a 4 year period.
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 17:16

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 17:16
be carefull with mixing aftermarked springs with standard shocks,due to different travel parameters, causing the spring to o/load downward force on the shock in the event of a particular wheel leaving terra firmer
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 20:00

Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 20:00
Hi Shane,
In practice this hasn't been an issue with the 90series. The downward travel of the front struts is limited by the sway bars rather than the shocks. The rear end is a standard live axle - and downward travel is limited by the shocks anyway. Free length of the lifted heavier, rear springs is usually the same as the factory springs.

I know a lot of people who had the same setup in their 90series Prados, and we did a lot of hard trips without issues.

Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 20:05

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 20:05
Hi Phil,
I must admit that I'm not too flash with the suspension set up in the prado's, but, the point I was making about mixing factory/ springs-shocks was that things could go wrong,for instance.
ye olde range rover (4 coils),post 80 series LC (4 coils) had STUFF all holding the coils in place(except shock absorbers) so if you got a wheel in the air and the shock travelled further than the spring, the coil would dislodge or fall out!
often shocks have longer travel and this when it begins to go wrong when the mix-matching suspension components
After having a second read of the post ,I interpreted it wrong,thinking the shocks where A/M items(their staying factory) .
But still there needs to be caution doing this SOME H/D springs have longer travel which COULD lead to shockie dramas during enthusiastic driving moments such criss-crossing deep wash outs or getting out going over a sudden dip/hole.
What happens is the coil pushes down until the shock gets fully extended, by this time the(factory) spring has run out of energy(travel) and the shock only has to deal with is the weight of the axle/wheel.
If we've got too bigger coil in there,the shock 'tops out' carrying unsprung weight(wheels,axles,diff's) with the coil still with energy pushing down against it
This will not be an issue if you just doing day to day stuff because the wheels will be always on the ground but if ya gunna go off road, sooner or later you will find a wheel (or two) in the air sooner or later.
Everything I have mentioned here ONLY relates to coil springs,and, again not being familiar with prados rear coil set up, I think that there needs to be a degree of caution

happy 4WD'ng
By the way nice pics


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