how can i make a 3lt d. hilux more fuel efficient
Submitted: Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 20:42
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troyza
HI all,
just curious if anyone knows how to make a 3.0D hilux better with fuel, it currently gets around 550km to 55lt at most on about 90km, with a custom canopy and all extras.
Is this as good as it will do, or am i expecting more than i should????
Cheers Troyza
Reply By: Member - John - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 20:49
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 20:49
block of wood under the accelerator pedal......................:-)
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Follow Up By: troyza - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 20:58
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 20:58
yeh, bloody fuel price is giving me the ..........!$#*. Even thinking of going for a forester, not bad i hear and 700km of 55lt! But lov my rig,
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Reply By: madfisher - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 20:59
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 20:59
Larger Free flowing exhaust say 2.5 may help at highway speeds plus a uni filter. Top motor but not the most fuel efficent, it would still be my pick of all the 4 cyclinder diesel motors Less agressive Tyres can make up to 50ks per
tank diff.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: troyza - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:03
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:03
yeh great motor, do you know what its suppose to be getting??
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:06
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:06
Actually You could be doing a lot worse, try runing two petrol 4wds would love to get what you are
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: troyza - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:11
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:11
why??? ya pocket must be deep?
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Reply By: Robin - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:04
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:04
Hi Troyza
The first step is to know what it should do.
If its relativily recent model it should have a fuel consumption label, and extra info you need is its weight now as per public weighbridge.
These 2 figures are starting point.
Cars about standard will do close to this figure, and can be driven around 1lt/100km lower than this figure if driving conservative, and around this figure if only 10-15% has been added to this weight.
This rule holds pretty
well for most cars in good condition and not modified much using close to standard tyres.
Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: troyza - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:14
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:14
Not that i think its that far from what it should be, just want to put a bit of that cash in the pocket or pub, can you have as good time on the road than off, maby not but might be worth it for a bit
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Follow Up By: Robin - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:32
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:32
Hi Troyza - Then just keep your tyres pumped up real hard ! like if your label says 30 go 45psi.
Robin Miller
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Reply By: Plantman - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:04
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:04
I would have thought getting that kind of economy (10 Lts/100k's) was quite good especially with it all loaded with extras. I currently get at best around 11 - 11.5 Lts/100k's (480 - 500 k's per 55 Lts) in my 04 TD with no extras apart from tray liner and sports bars. If you start to compare to petrol powered duel cabs like the Rodeo then you should be happy I reckon.
Plantman
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Follow Up By: troyza - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:08
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:08
I guess thing is when looking at other cars and seeing the puergot 307 getting 1300 from 55lt it kinda makes ya think about getting off the tracks just to save to money, hell knows it aint getting cheaper!!!!!!!!
Petrol shmetrol!!!
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Follow Up By: Plantman - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:13
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:13
Yep you have a point with respect to better economy car but I spose the question remains - do you still want a capable 4wd. If so I think you're not doing too bad economy wise. Can always buy a cheap runaround or motorbike to waste normal k's on and reserve the 4b for the trekking. You won't be getting too remote in a 307.
Deisel schmeezle indeed.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:40
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:40
plantman, that's pretty ordinary mileage...I'm getting(According to my lease docs) 12.2L/100km from my V6 Triton, canopy, B/Bar and I been driving it like I stole it...
Toyo web site claims 8.5L/100km for the oiler, you'd have to be giving it a fair amount of curry to do 11-11.5. Not sure about Toyo but I know Mitsu and Ford err on the conservative side when setting fuel consumption and you should easily be able to better the advertised figures.
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Follow Up By: Plantman - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:54
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:54
yeah seems what toyo quote and what you actually get is always a different and usually not for the better. Most quotes I've read on this site and others (and I've tried searching the subject a lot) is around 11 - 12Lts/100k's for general use. It's the 1kz-te motor and not the new one. Mind you the below comment on 06 model doesn't look too good. I don't get up it at all and just let it power itself but I don't sit on 80 or 90 either in the 100 zone. No doubt get the econ down if you did 90 instead of 100 or 105.
Plantman
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 22:56
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 22:56
Hi Blue,
That is good for a petrol, I presume that is the 24v motor. I have got 11L/100 going down the hume out of the 4runner with 22r motor.The 24v 3L seems to be as good on fuel as the 2.8 d.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 23:28
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 23:28
Yeah Pete, it's the 24v 3L V6... The more K's I put on her, the better the economy gets... At 112,000 now, was getting low to mid 13's up until about 45,000k's and has been gradually getting better since...
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Follow Up By: cookie - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:42
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:42
Have same 3L V6 in a challenger and get mid 12's generally, over 13 with air con on, 150000 k's.
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Reply By: yakodi - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:08
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:08
Family recently towed a 16ft Jayco expander outback model up through the Victorian Alpine highway - lucky to get 200-250Km per
tank with their 3.0 L td Hilux
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Follow Up By: troyza - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:10
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:10
doesnt that make you think why bother or am i just being a bloody prude!!
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Reply By: Bear77 - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:16
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:16
don't feel so bad bud just sold an 06 dual cab hilux 3.0td coz we could only get 330km to 68 litres of diesel and toyota wer'nt interested,only advice buy a PRADO.
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Follow Up By: troyza - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:33
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:33
the new ones are a pile of crap! all aspects, i have an 01, that does make me smile!!
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Follow Up By: T.C - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:38
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:38
Bear,
are you for realwith those figures ? That is scary !
Thought they werebetter than that the 3.0 ltr Dual cab.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:45
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 21:45
Troyza,
. Good to see Toyota have finally caught up with Isuzu, (at least in one aspect). We averaged 8.7 L/ 100 in the old '94 Rodeo, but have dropped to 10/100 in the 2002, 3L version. Similar setup as you describe. Also is less tolerant to higher speeds than the good old 2.8L engine.
. On a trip, we now work on 11L/100. A bit sad, really. Jeff H.
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Reply By: fisho64 - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 22:47
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 22:47
not a block of wood, an egg under the pedal is better.
seriously, you would be insane to sell an expensive car and buy another expensive car to save a few bucks on fuel. Do some calculations, if you use a full
tank a week, to change from a car that does 10litres/100km to one that does 8l/100km you will save 9 litres a week you will save $12.60 a week in fuel. and to save that money you will be spending thousands in GST and stamp duty etc. dont know which state you live in but stamp duty and GST could be up to several grand. by my calculater that could take 158 weeks to break even.
Alternatively you could give up 1 packet of gaspers a week, or a six pack of beer, or do 1 hour of overtime a week, or wash the neighbours car once a fortnight, make sandwiches for lunch once a week, skip 2 cappucinos, or possibly just live with it, like country people do who dont have an alternative with public transport.
I guess it is a bit like when interest rates were at historic lows, then went up quarter percent and people were saying "we're gonna lose our house"
pretty
well anybody could find an extra $10 a week somewhere, and if they lost there house cos they didnt try,
well they almost certainly borrowed far too much when rates were low, or they couldnt be bothered
Dont think I am having a personal dig though please, I am only trying to put it in perspective
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Follow Up By: troyza - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 07:16
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 07:16
Na i hear what ya say, not a dig, does put in perspective, thing is i do live in the country and at the end of the day not always off road, and if i did get a 307 i would almost cut my fuel by two thirds. surley that could be worth it???
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Reply By: Brett_B - Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 23:20
Monday, Sep 04, 2006 at 23:20
My 05 hilux D4D gets currently around 10lt per 100klm
The best I recorded was 9.5, Toyota state 8.5
I find that with the new engine it has that much grunt I like to use it, hence I seem to run a little quicker than I did in the older Hilux even when towing. It does it so easy. (but at a cost)
I have bull bar
snorkel and all, I think these item not only weigh a little but stuff up the airflow as
well :-(
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Reply By: uzie - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 03:14
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 03:14
Hi All
I have a 2500cc DCi Nissan Pathfinder and I live in Greece
I was doing something line 11.5 - 12 lts / 100 Km and my Bhp was 174. Then I bought this tuning chip thingy. From Germany. Easy to install, no hustle.
The claim was increase in Hp, Torque, and Better fuel efficiency.
I cant say about BHp and Torque (I cant measure them), although I have the feeling that my car has lost something like 300 Kgrs from its 2.300 Kgrs.
But the consumption has been decreased to 8.5 - 9 lts / 100 Kgrs (on board computer). I did a search with the keywords "diesel tuning site:au" and got a lot of hits.
I think this is your answer
Regards
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Follow Up By: troyza - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 07:18
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 07:18
Hey there uzie,
I would love to find out more about that, do you think there will be one in Aus???
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:04
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:04
will only work with yours if its EFI,
you havent said what model your is?
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Follow Up By: troyza - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 17:16
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 17:16
2001 straight 3lt D.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 17:47
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 17:47
tuning/power chip is not applicable then as it doesnt have a computer
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 14:52
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 14:52
Fill the fuel tank up with water. It won't use ANY fuel after that! LMAO.
** Note, do NOT fill your tank up with water! ***
Try putting 1.7% Acetone in the fuel tank, I am currently testing this theory and preliminary fuel results are looking positive. Car is MUCH quieter too, truley suprising.
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Follow Up By: Heefers - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 16:31
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 16:31
What's the theory behind the Acetone Jeff and is it for diesel or petrol?
Cheers,
Heefers
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Reply By: Heefers - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 16:26
Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 16:26
G'day Troyza,
I have an '02 DualCab 3.0TD Hilux and am getting similar economy. It was worse than this however. I made a very unpleasant discovery whilst checking out my intake manifold internals one day. Inside of the intake was caked up with a half inch thick coating of an oily carbon residue that had made its way to the cylinder head ports and was resticting airflow.
Problem turns out to be the crankcase breather on the rocker cover is very low and feeds straight back into the fresh air side of the turbo which in turn feeds through the charge pipe back into the intake to be burned off with combustion. This oily residue was mixing with the carbon from the EGR inside the intake and instead of burning off in the cylinder it created a sticky paste and sits on the wall of the intake and cylinder head. As we all know if the donk's not getting enough air, it's not going to make enough power giving you bad economy.
Simple solution was to fit a catch tank to collect oil vapour from the crankcase breather and block off the existing hose to the turbo, give the intake and head a thorough clean and monitor. In doing this the engine became more responsive, had more power and I got better economy.
Might be worth checking out as I don't think that this is an isolated problem.
Cheers,
Heefers
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