Stingrays

Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 09:21
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Two big losses to Australia yesterday, Steve Irwin and Sting Rays...

But out of loss maybe a better understanding and awareness comes?

Hopefully Stingrays won't be treated too harshly out of all this.

Someone mentioned in the Steve Irwin Thread... Stingrays can be playfull especiialy when food is around!
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Hamelin Bay in South West WA is my favourite beach in Australia and one that has a population of Friendly Stingrays...

www.baywatchmanor.com.au

Click on "attractions" and "what's on"

If you have a story about Stingrays I am sure we are happy to read about it on here.

wanderstu
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 09:55

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 09:55
I remember working with Dave Ireland (Ch 9's 'animal expert') who was also my diving instructor, and manytimes we were playing with occys, moreys, and rays..

First thing he always told us is never get behind their eyes on top where they arent sure of.. thats when they get chitty..

Rays are not generally dangerous, but like any creature anythign can be dangerous
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:36

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:36
Yeah there's a few resident ray's down busso in the south of WA, they come right up to less than 1m of water on the beach! Personally they scare the crap out of me, but I'd never try to harm the poor buggers, I just grab me rod and high tail it when it comes towards me! ;-) (I'm such a woose!).

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:58

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:58
there was one near Narooma once, I went down to secure the Anchor, adn the sky went black. I looked up and chit myself at the size of this thing... I came up that fast, that I was out of the water to my knees nearly... mates were bleep in emselves..
it followed us the whole dive, was great

JohnR tooks us down to Pt Fairy and there were a few that live under the wharf there that were feedign on an old shark carcass that was dumped in 12inch of water.. these were kewl to watch.
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Follow Up By: Member - bushfix - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 12:04

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 12:04
yeah i've been fishing inside the bar there at narooma, standing in the water and three of those big ones came cruising past me. they just brushed my stomach as they passed, fair dinkum you just freeze, stunned.
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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 13:19

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 13:19
In the tidal Creek that runs inland from Huskisson on the South Coast of NSW there are some biiiiiig mothers of Black Rays.
Standing in the creek and fishing was interesting when these buggers came along the shallows in only about 6" of water. Their eyes were out of the water most of the time.
I was terrified and couldn't move fast enough to get out of their way. They just glided past and could not have cared less about me.
Later that day we went to a local wharf where the fishos clean their catch and they were all around there. The local kids were hand feeding them with the scraps. They were coming right up out of the water and the kids were patting them, no fear no aggro at all, i was truly amazed because as a kid i brought up to fear the stingray when wandering around pumping for nippers in the early morning darkness.
I guess you are never too old to learn eh?
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Follow Up By: nonon - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 23:46

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 23:46
About the only time a ray will hurt you is out of instinct to protect itself. Most accidents result in stings to the feet or ankles. Coming in over the top of one from behind is like standing behind a stalion......really dumb.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:03

Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:03
Huskison pub... with the fire in the middle.. if its still there....

love the area
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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 11:57

Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 11:57
Never been to the pub, Bruce, but it sure is a nice part of the world for sure.
Though its getting VERY touristy now, lots of eating places and always full of people.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 12:25

Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 12:25
oh goody, the tourists can have a latte on the footpath forr $20ea

where the hell is this planet heading.. :(
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:50

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:50
There are two situations where people are likely to be slashed by the sting in the tail.

When diving if you don't notice the two eyes poking out of the sand and swim close enough for him to get defensive.

When walking in sandy shallows and you step in a sleeping stingray - it's safer to shuffle along so you have more chance of waking them.
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:02

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:02
Footage of the incident shows that he was only swimming over it - not doing anything to aggravate it.

He didn't die instantly - he pulled out the barb.

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Reply By: Member - bushfix - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:05

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:05
G'day,

not sure what you mean re the big loss wrt sting rays.....

anyway,

whilst coming close to stingrays in tidal creeks near my home, the closest encounter i have had is several shocks from the coffin (electric) rays, in sydney harbour. they were not enough to knock me out but a pretty hefty bolt. One was via my feet then a second against my chest. fortunately left me laughing but would scare the hell out of kids i imagine, not too pleasant.

coffin ray

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Follow Up By: Stuw - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:28

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:28
I wanted to edit that comment, but couldn't work out how!

I meant to say something like I hope people don't get the wrong idea about Sting Rays, like a stingray hunt or anything!
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:58

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:58
The only good thing about electric rays is that they don't have a barb!
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:12

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:12
I had an affair once with a stingray called Barbara . She was a bit of a stick in the mud and to my horror , she kept catching crabs . She was really hooked on me , but in the end I felt I had to let her go .
Willie ..
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Reply By: c j - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:48

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 11:48
Many years ago we used to grab them by the tail wearing welding gloves and wait till the newbie divers on their dive test came through the archway then let them go. Never seen so many bubbles and wide eyes as these rays came at them like bats outa he#$ trying to get away from what was holding them.

I've also had them come up out of the sand at me when I've been scalloping in low vis. When they're bigger than your armspan you learn to swim backwards pretty fast. Adrenalin is wonderful thing. ;-)

The old man's got some barbs over a foot long of some rays that he speared back in the 50's and 60's. Those barbs have a lot of nasty stuff on them that you don't want in a wound.

At the end of the day though we are in their environment and they are wild animals so discretion is the better part of valour and the same goes for sharks.
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Reply By: greydemon - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 17:16

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 17:16
The Hamelin Bay rays are fantastic, I have often stood waist deep in water there surrounded by VERY big rays of several different species. They come up and gently nudge your legs to see if you have any food for them, if you haven't they just back off snd try someone else.

Last time I was there there were a few waves and lots of weed, several times big rays came in on a wave and beached themselves then made frantic efforts to get back to the water. This time I stayed well up the beach, even 'friendly' rays can cause damage when they panic. As I recall no-one went in that day, so no-one got hurt. Magnificent, but handle with care and common sense. As all the reports suggest that Steve did nothing wrong it seems that he just got unlucky, a sad loss.
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Reply By: fisho64 - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 17:58

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 17:58
Id think Steve would be rolling over, where ever he is, if he had seen the footage on TV last nite where every 2nd shot was of manta rays, not sting rays.
Manta's have no sting, barb or teeth and are totally harmless.
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Follow Up By: WDR - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 18:59

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 18:59
Manta's are bigger than stingrays aren't they?
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 23:20

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 23:20
Biggest I have seen was around 7 meters plus across (manta)
But humpback whales are bigger than stonefish, dugongs are bigger than pitbulls, koalas are bigger than scorpions, white tail spiders and many other deadly animals.
Not sure what you are getting at?
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