camp fires

Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 14:06
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Hi all, as mentioned in a previous post, will be on the Holland Track in a fortnights time. Just wondering if campfires will be legal over this period. Many thanks.
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Reply By: Member - Ric K (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 15:02

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 15:02
can't help, but a quick check with the relevant shire councils should help.
Augusta Margaret River Council summer ban commences 9th Nov
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 18:41

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 18:41
Most fire bans in southern areas of the country commence in Novenber and end in April. There is a lot of undergrowth debris along the Holland Track but clearing a 4 metre wide area around the fire will lessen the possibility of it igniting the surrounding bush. If unsure, then cook with gas.
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 21:08

Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 at 21:08
nissnut and anyone else who cares to read this, sorry it's so long,

While I can't help you with the legalities of a camp fire in that area at any time, as a professional firefighter for over 26 years now, can I offer the following advice.

When I am called to a fire in a back yard, camp fire or fire in a field (farmer burning off etc.) the first question I ask myself is "Is it dangerous?" If it is I put it out. Then I ask "is it legal?" If it is not I advise those in control of the fire to put it out. I am not a law enforcement officer and do not want to be. No offence to all those out there who are, I respect you and the difficult job you do.

The advice offered by Willem is quite pertinent. A cleared area is important to the safety of the bush and the people who are supposed to enjoy the fire. It not only makes spread of the fire less likely it facilitates safe movement around the fire. The law in NSW states the cleared area is to be minimum of 4.5m from the edge of the fire. The area above the fire should also be clear.

In addition to Willem's advice keep the fire small. If you drag a fallen 30m tree into camp and set it alight you will attract attention, someone will call the local authority and you will have great difficulty convincing them that it is safe at any time of year. You will also waste resources robbing others of the simple pleasure you have enjoyed. A fire 450mmm in diametre is quite sufficient to do all your cooking and provide the atmosphere we all love when out in the bush. By keeping it small you are more likely to "Get away with it". I am not condoning breaking the law here, throughout Australia there are heavy fines and even prison sentences attached to the breaking of fire safety regulations, but why attract attention when you don't need to.

When you are finished with the fire or if you are leaving the campsite unattended put the fire out. The best way is to use water. Once the fire is thouroughly extinguished spread it out so it does not remain as an ugly scar on the environment. Let the next people who camp there believe they are the first to visit that spot. Please don't use your campfire as a rubbish disposal site. The old burn bash and bury idea died long ago. Take your rubbish with you.

Hopefully I am telling people what they already know, preaching to the converted. I am not trying to spoil anyones fun, I love a fire more than most, there is a fair bit of pyromaniac in most fire fighters. If we do it right then the authorities are less likely to outlaw this most enjoyable part of camping.

I fully condone your desire to research the legislation, can I suggest you contact the local fire authority or national parks who should be more than happy to give you the latest information. Thankyou for the opportunity to address an issue I am just a little passionate about. This advice is meant to be friendly, hope it is taken that way.

Duncs
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Reply By: nissnut - Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:01

Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:01
Thanks guys, advice appreciated. I will check with the relevent authorities. Duncs, I suppose it boils down to good ol' common sense. These days a very rare commodity. Thanks again, Nissnut
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Reply By: MAVERICK(WA) - Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 11:00

Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 11:00
given the forecast for the next 4 days the trip along the holland in a couple of weeks should be really nice - as long as the rain arrives as predicted for this weekend. plenty of places to camp with cleared areas suitable for campfires - just remember the space station doesn't really need to be able to use your fire as a positioning beacon - though a big fire is kinda good (sometimes). you will need to cart wood as there is a scarcity at some of the campsites and we don't want to go ripping down trees do we?? i guess you just need to make sure you are in civilisation for the big weekend to watch those mighty eagles triumph. rgds
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Follow Up By: nissnut - Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 18:25

Wednesday, Sep 06, 2006 at 18:25
Hey Maverick, dont you mean the DOCKERS. If I want to watch a bunch of canarys I just sit out back and stare at the aviary. Nissnut
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