What happens to used oil?
Submitted: Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:46
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Moggs
Might be a silly question - not sure, just interested......what happens to the used engine oli when it is removed at service time? Is it sent away to be re-processed, used for another purpose or just disposed of? If disposed, how and where?
Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:47
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:47
Moggs,
there's a place called Environmental oil in
Laverton. They crack used oil to make diesel and sell it to the public.
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Follow Up By: Moggs - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:54
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:54
ok, so it is re-used in that instance. Does this sort of re-processing happen with most oil from mechanics?
Reason I ask - I have a neighbour who does his own servicing and buries his engine oil in his front garden. I had a bit of a go at him and he reckons that is all that would happen if he paid for someone to take it away. Didn't believe him - but got me wondering what happens to the used oil.
BTW, his garden sux big time LOL. Hope he gets caught doing what he is doing.
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Follow Up By: Vince NSW - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:09
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:09
Moggs,
This is what I do for a crust. We collect about 2 mil lt per year.
There are about 3 disposal / recycle
routes.
1. Oil is recycled into base oil for re blending & sale back into the market.
2. Blended as a flue source for cement kilns & such.
3. Reprocessed as a fuel oil
Your neighbour is breaking about 10 environmental laws. No matter what state you are in, is an offence to place in or on land any substance that has the potential to cause harm to the environment. Get him to stop or ring the local pollution hotline.
Vince
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Reply By: madfisher - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:53
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:53
Hi Moggs, Some of the local servos use the old sump oil to heat their workshops. Amazing heaters, no smell or fumes. Their is also co. arround that pickup used oil from servos and trucking co. and reprocess it.
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Follow Up By: Moggs - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:55
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:55
ok, thanks - do you know what the re-processed oil is used for?
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:06
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:06
Moggs not 100% sure but I think the really cheap oil at some outlets is reprossed oil. Others may know more about this. I would contact EPA if he is burying it as it could get into ground
water
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:10
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:10
Most council tips have faculities for taking used oil no charge. Or tip it into the local servos 44g. drum they usually do not mind if you buy fuel off them
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Moggs - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:10
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:10
ok, thought it might be mixed - resued. Yeah, would like to report him - but now I've confronted him about it he will get a bit narky I reckon. Don't need the hassel. Think I will just ask him to bottle it and tell him I will dispose of it if he wont - hopefully this will embarrass him into getting rid of it properly himself.
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Follow Up By: F4Phantom - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:41
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:41
yeah seriously that is shocking behaviour, I am from the Y generation and probably the first to be formerly educated about the environment. I know in school now the education is even more environmentaly aligned. Anyway I can kind of understand older people mistaking what they can and cant do with rubbish but that does not change the result which must be stopped. Do what you can to stop this guy, and for anyone else here who does not know yet
NEVER DUMP OIL IN THE LAND, IT STAYS IN THE SOIL FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND GETS INTO THE
WATER TABLE
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Reply By: troopyman - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:57
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:57
I put 3 litres of sump oil strained thru a chux cloth into a 9 litre garden sprayer .Then i add 6 litres of diesel and mix then spray into all my panels and underneath the troopy . Still like brand new .
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Follow Up By: Moggs - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:59
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 21:59
Now that is recycling! Doesn't it smell?
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Follow Up By: troopyman - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:15
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:15
Doesnt smell if mixed one third oil to two thirds diesel
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:48
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:48
Works
well for me too.
Doesn't smell of oil any more, just diesel.
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:59
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:59
add rose petals then!
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Follow Up By: troopyman - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:00
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:00
I love the smell of diesel in the morning
(I in no way condone smelling or sniffing of diesel fumes )
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Follow Up By: Paul - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:08
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:08
Troopyman,
Do you find that you get a build up of dirt and grime?
If so how easy does the dirt and grime come off?
How often do you reapply?
Do you apply the 9 liters at once?
Sounds a bit like what people have suggested you do up at Fraser. Like oil bathing/rust inhibiting the underneth.
Paul
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Follow Up By: troopyman - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 09:14
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 09:14
Its used as a sand vehicle and driven on fraser , moreton and stradbroke islands so i dont worry about dirt . I have a gravel driveway at home and the excess oil also kills the weeds in the driveway . The next thing i have to do is buy a home
water tank so i can actually hose the sand out of the car .
Water restrictions in
brisbane and you can only use a bucket . I dont use 9 litres of oil/diesel mix at once . Prolly about half that .
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 19:36
Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 19:36
Paul,
That is what i do.
Spray it on then find a nice dusty road to help it set.
Takes a while for the stones and sand ro chip it off.
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Reply By: richopesto - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:07
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:07
Moggs,
check this:
www.oilrecycling.gov.au/what-happens.html
cheers
richo
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Follow Up By: Moggs - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:12
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:12
Ah! Thanks. (hope I don't get the Google search Nazi's rap me over not finding that site myself LOL!)
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Follow Up By: richopesto - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:26
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:26
no worries mate, Im practiced, I google all day - part of my job. believe it or not.
I ahve been known to bury my oil too :/ In a huge clear area, and deep enough its only likely to degrade the local site. The earth is a great recycler, given time. Doesnt make it right though.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:00
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:00
google all day ???....may i ask what your job is richopesto
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Follow Up By: richopesto - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:29
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:29
well, possibly a slight exaggeration. :)
I support an IT development environment. Needless to say lots of stuff breaks or errors. I spend a lot of time trawling threads and sites for solutions and advice. We might spend all day chasing a problem round the www.
Heres one of my favourite google tricks: to get the meaning of a word, or phrase use "define:" dont forget the colon :
i.e. define:crikey
RIP Steve
cheers
Richo
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Reply By: Big Kidz (Andrew & Jen) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:07
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:07
Just changed my oil today and have a bit in the garage. Was searching on the net and found this government site that you can find the closest place to take it and dispose of it safely. Oil recycling directory
I could not get the stupid map thing to work though!
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Follow Up By: Big Kidz (Andrew & Jen) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:12
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:12
Map works tonight!!
I did look under the Whitehorse council and they have one that is not listed so I guess it is like they say.... not a comprehensive list.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Moggs - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:15
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:15
Thanks - will print some out and give to the neighbour. Hopefully they don't charge - cause I can't see him paying.
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Follow Up By: greydemon - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:28
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:28
I got it to work, I live in outer Metro
Perth and the nearest site is about a 40km round trip in a direction I never normally go! I think I'll have a chat with the local servo.
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:11
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:11
I mix
mine 50/50 with kerosene and use it as an excellent
camp fire starter. It will persuade the wettest wood to burn.
Mike Harding
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:24
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:24
I've always just placed
mine back in the plastic containers that the new oil has come from and put them into the wheelie bin. I know that is the wrong thing to do and in the past I have taken it to
the tip for recycling etc.
However, this thread has got me wondering what possible harm could come from placing very small amounts into the fuel tank each time we fill up with diesel? I'm talking , like, 100ml at a time....not too much. Any small impuities (like metal) would be "grabbed" by the 3 powerful magnets in the Morison DeBug unit which sits in the fuel lines before the CAV filter.
In any case, now that I have the oil bypass filtration system, I only have to change my oil every 50,000klm anyway, so it's not a huge issue.
Interesting thought actually.....hhmmmmm
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:45
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:45
Hi Roachie,
Do you remember the old Bulldog tractors, they would run on sump oil no problems,I think the cockies just use to strain the oil to take out any metal
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:57
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 22:57
Hi Roachie,
I heard on ABC radio today that country SA areas have virtually no recycling facilities compared to the city.
Our local council takes used engine oil. Up until recently, I did as you did :-(((
Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 23:03
Thursday, Sep 07, 2006 at 23:03
Roachie, do you call that upper cylinder lubricant?
I met a guy who worked at a plant in the outer west of
Melbourne somewhere where oil was recycled and at that stage they weren't recycling diesel engine oil, but all that may have changed in the last 10 years or so. He recognised the vacuum pump oil drums in our shed as coming from his workplace, recycled hydraulic oil.
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 22:09
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 22:09
Gday Roachie and all
Has any one else done mutch of this recycling (in the fuel tank). Sureley about 1 litre blended with 100 wouldn't hurt....strained and filtered of course. It has some energy value, and wouldn't cause the engine any harm would it?
Tempted to do this myself, but a little scared of engine repairs etc...
Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: Kiwi Kia - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 06:35
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 06:35
Not the answer to your original question but maybe this is what the future holds for us small vehicle owners;
A lot of the big rigs continually bleed a small amount of engine oil into the engine fuel system and so burn oil as they run along the highway. At the same time new lube oil is fed into the sump to make up for the old oil that is being burnt. This saves the trucking company from having to both change and dispose of the old oil. The only service that is required is to change the filters and
check the reservoir tanks.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:23
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:23
My Maruti engines Suzuki near dld that on it's own.
Well it had to thin the sump oil enough and extend it to be overfull and push oil to the fuel tank, and the mix to the sump. It was burning sump oil and fuel at the same time. Only a small repair to what we thought it would be. Just a replacement fuel pump!
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Reply By: D-Jack - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:14
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:14
Dont' they make tar for roads, and tyres, and plastic out of it?
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Reply By: Darian (SA) - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:30
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 11:30
The bloke at our waste disposal dump reckons a brick making mob near
Adelaide use all of his oil to fire the kiln.
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:57
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:57
There was a retail "tuning" franchise caught reusing old oil a few years ago if I remember correctly.?
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Reply By: Rock Crawler - Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 18:12
Friday, Sep 08, 2006 at 18:12
Dont take it lightly mate , I have seen first hand what contaminating soil can do. For starter , nothing will gro there for years to come . Anther major issie, is what happends when it rais, were does it travel . Rain will take it to its path of travel, hopefully its not in your dirrection. A phone call to the epa will do the trick, about 10k worth of trick .
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