bead breakers

Submitted: Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 12:06
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Hi all I have heard of tyre pliers but was wondering if there was any others out there that may be worth a look as tyre pilers are around $360

thanks Jas
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 12:17

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 12:17
yes there are, R&R Beadbreaker are really good, still a bit exe tho,

You could use your hi-lift jack under your tow bar for a lot less dosh, or drive over the tyre and pop the bead

I have tyrepliers tho
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Follow Up By: Ken - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 17:07

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 17:07
R&R far and away the easiest to use. Simple to operate witha spanner and far less effort than pliers. You can sit beside the tyre and wind the nut which breaks the bead, absolutely no wrestling with the tool. Very little chance of damaging the beads unlike pliers which have a very narrow jaw compared to the R&R.
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Reply By: Footloose - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 12:48

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 12:48
I bought tyrepliars and am glad I did. They are so easy to use, that I now find that breaking the bead is the easiest part of the job.
Of course now that I don't have split rims I use them a lot less :)
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Reply By: Member - Charlie S (VIC) - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 13:00

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 13:00
G'day, I use my Tow Bar and a bottle jack. Works well. I have now made a device that replaces the tongue with a locator for the jack and it incorporates a recovery hook as well.
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Follow Up By: Wazza - (Vic) - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 18:38

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 18:38
I agree - here is a good example:

80 series jack as bead breaker
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 13:04

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 13:04
Cant remember how much my tyre pliers were but they were no where near that much and that was buying them in the country
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Follow Up By: equinox - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 14:39

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 14:39
I bought some genuine ones from ARB in Osborne Park for about $160

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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 14:46

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 14:46
Jas,

You can always check Ebay
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Reply By: Member - Ian S (NT) - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 19:14

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 19:14
Hi Jas0

I have R&R beadbreaker and have used it in earnest more than a few times and found it easy and relatively effortless to use. Tried years ago driving over tyres to break the bead, waste of time effort and dangerous as well.

I find the biggest problem is getting the bead to set and will install an air cylinder to get the rush required to set it. The experience of being at Mt Dare has made the whole process easier for me. I would recommend you practice plenty at home before you leave.

Cheers Ian@Mt Dare
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:15

Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:15
Yes have to agree Ian, bought mine several years ago, and to offset the expense decided to do all my own repairs ( 5 vehicles 5 trailers) so bought some extra repair gear and I would have easily recovered the cost of it all by now, not to mention the regular practise I get.

When we were looking to buy a kit, it was my wife who pushed me to the R&R, as she reminded me I was not getting any younger and as this tool is a once in a lifetime purchase, it looked much easier to operate as you get older. She was right , at home I do my repairs up on an old table, saves bending down.

Getting a bit of time off from repairs at the moment, as most vehicles have had new tryes in the last few months, dont get as many in new rubber.

Cheers Pesty
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:22

Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:22
Just remembered a time when we couldnt use the R&R, was on FIL 04 pajero, and the centre mount for the R&R wont fit down through the small centre hole, and we ended up using someones tyre pliers, but are more dificult to use.
It could be made to work with the pajero alloys, with a different shaped centre mount made up to do the job.

Cheers Pesty
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 19:58

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 19:58
As Ian said practice is the key whatever tool you use.

I have an R&R and love it. I have repaired tyres on a number of different vehicles including my sisters Astra which has alloy rims. I was worried about damaging the alloy with my clumsy outback tools, but I needn't have. It was fairly easy.

The other bonus with the R&R is that it helps you put the tyre back on.

Can't and won't comment of Tyre Pliers 'cause I haven't used them or even seen them used, but the R&R works fine for me.

Duncs
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Reply By: Eric Experience. - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 22:12

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 22:12
Jas.
I made the mistake of getting a set of tyre pliers, they are very hard on rims they make a groove in the steel that has to be sanded and painted. I loned mine to a mate to use on a disco aly wheel and he broke a 50mm long piece out of the rim. I dont use them anymore. Eric.
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Reply By: Robin - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 07:30

Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 07:30
Jas $360 is the price for whole recovery kit not just tyrepliers.

Brought mine some time ago now at $95 and found them really useful but as per other posts here , there is potential to damage rim if not to careful.

Just other day I had really hard tyre to get off , but just use my home made tyrepliers and put force onto 2-3 areas before the final bead breaking effort.
Great tool but agree with Ian comment about doing a couple first at home.

www.tyrepliers.com.au/home.htm

Site has useful instructions on repairing tyres.

A big reason why I got them was that they were thin and compact and could easily be tucked away under car seats.

Having said that though , we are a bit into lightweight stuff so a friend borrowed mine and made a copy in 4 hours once using non-hardened 6mm flat steel, after seeing this we made up a set which doesn't have the adjustment bar and only works on 15-17 tyres.

The optimized new tool only weighs in at 2kg and is even more compact hence it lives in the car now.

Robin Miller

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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 10:50

Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 10:50
I made all sorts of beadbreakers in the past (including one similar to the R&R), but the humble jack or highlift jack is still the easiest in my experience.

Used to use the scissor jack with the Corolla I took outback in the 70's, and with the early Landcruisers; Used the bottle jack with adaptor on the Prados, and now use the High Lift Jack with the 79series.
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