Tubes in Tubeless Tyres

Submitted: Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 23:20
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I am a new member and this is my first post so please take it easy on me.
I was hoping someone with more extensive Tyre knowledge than myself could advise me if it is possible to place a tube into a standard tubeless tyre on a 2004 Prado.
I occassionally get the odd puncture that a tubeless repair kit cannot fix due to the 1 inch tear in the tyre and was hoping that in emergency cases where I cannot get another tyre I could remove the tyre with tyre pliers, place a tube in it and large patch on the inside of a tyre to prevent the tube from any damage from the tear, this would then hopefully get me back to civilisation.
Any ideas, suggestions or products knowledge would be appreciatted.
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Reply By: Hairy - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 23:46

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 23:46
yep
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Reply By: spinifex - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 23:50

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 23:50
Hi Loner

Yes mate I carry a couple of tubes just for the emergency you describe. The valve stem might not always line up perfectly but as long as it holds air your still mobile. Get some advice from your local tyre shop on the best tube size to fit.

Regards
Spinifex
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Follow Up By: spinifex - Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 23:58

Saturday, Sep 09, 2006 at 23:58
Also should add that some tubeless tyres can be very hard to reseat in the bush, sometimes even if a good internal repair has been made it is still easier to whack in a tube and get on your way.

Emergency only right!

Regards
Spinifex
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Reply By: Robin - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 07:42

Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 07:42
Yep same here, always carry spare tube and used it once or twice on car and lots
of times in river in summer.

P.S. Buy a 235/85/16 size tube

This size will fit most common 4wd wheels and it is rated to fit all tyres up to 33in 285/75/16 so will serve a spare across cars for years.

Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:45

Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:45
Huh ....ya can't swim eh ....gotta have a little tube to keep you up
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Reply By: Blackie - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 08:02

Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 08:02
I fiitted a set of BFGs to my 88RR (while on a trip) The fitter didn't realise that RR wheels should not have tubeless tyres fitted (neither did I). I rectified this some time later and had tubes fitted. Which lead to another problem the tyres had small labels stuck on the inside. One tyre was lost when either the label wore a hole in the tube or the glue on the label reacted with the rubber and the tube failed.
I was driving the car on a very hot day and the tyre was running hot and eventually gave up (I didn't feel any difference until it was too late).
The company that fitted the tubes accecpted some blame, replaced the tyre removed all the labels, and fitted new tubes It cost me $100.00 Good service I thought.
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Reply By: Willem - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:46

Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:46
Loner

I have carried spare tubes for my 265/75/16's but have never used them. On my last trip I stuck 6 plugs in one tyre as the cut was 2 inches. Tyre is still on truck and now has gater on inside( put there by my tyre bloke). I have looked at my tyres(Cooper STT) and have decided that breaking the bead with the tyre pliers is not going to be fun. I will be keeping the 265's for the time being but going to set the truck up with splits and cheesecutters for rough off track treks. If you still want to carry tubes for emergencies then I suggest you get an R&R Beadbreaker which has the capability of pulling a tyre back on to the rim.

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Follow Up By: Old Johno [NSW] - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 10:05

Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 10:05
Willem,
Which unit is the R&R.
Thanks
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Follow Up By: Old Johno [NSW] - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 10:18

Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 10:18
Willem,
Don't bother I tracked it down on the web,
thanks
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Reply By: kimprado - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 16:24

Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 16:24
Loner,

I'm not an expert on this subject my any means, but there are a couple of things to consider:

1. Are you running mag wheels? If so, a lot of damage can be done to the wheel without the right equipment when attempting to break the bead.

2. I'm told that a certain valve stem is required if placing tubes in mag wheels. From memory it has something to do with abrasion around the seat of the valve. Others may know more about this.

Regards

Kim
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Reply By: Member - LONER - Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 23:58

Sunday, Sep 10, 2006 at 23:58
Thankyou all for your advice/answers, I have had a full set of Tyre Pliers for the last 12 yaers and are well aware of the cosmetic damage they can do to quality wheels/rims, I will follow the advice given and purchase the R & R Beadbreakers and the suggested sized tube size, will only be used in extreme emergencies with no other options available.
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