More Ebay scams...beware...AGAIN !

I found eBay customer services to be the worst I ever encountered. I refused to do business on their site ever again.

The sad thing is how Ebay give themselves a bad name... There is literally 1000's on entries on the web detailing how Ebay failed to act on malicious/fraudulent behaviour... This is part of the reason people are drifting away and moving to places like Grays Online, and the opposition is more than happy to pick up the pieces... Having said that, I personally have only had positive dealings with Ebay... I do however know two families personally who have had major drama's and Ebay were useless.

David, I have to admit that over the years I've had run ins with their company, and can quite understand your comments.
Blue, I've been lucky dealing with their complaints Dpt. I suspect that they might be getting better but even one disgruntled customer is one too many.

Blue, I am interested in your comment on Graysonline. I have been dealing there for years on and off following purcheses of some portable buildings following the Olympic Games in 2000 from a Grays offshoot. Have bought two computers, including my laptop.

Experiences have been very mixed to the now stage of disinterest in dealing there. . The desktop computer was lost in transit as no one had removed the labels that directed the computer to a Melbourne girls school. The computer arrived after one month of phone calls when the school realised there was a computer there they hadn't ordered.
. A rug arrived nearly four weeks after it had been bought and many emails later.....
. A SD card was even longer, arriving by post

With more people interested in Grays, nothing is now inexpensive....

John, sorry it took a while to get back to you...

I have some friends who used to have ebay stores ... They have migrated to Grays as they are sick of ebays lack lustre customer service and dispute resolution facilities. They have had a far better response both from management and customers at Grays and personally I have found grays to be a much nicer place to shop. I bought a wine fridge for wedding present and it was delivered to the house across the road. After tracking it and being told it had been delivered, I questioned the seller as to where he'd sent it as it had been delivered but I wasn't looking at it. He went through my details and he'd posted it to the wrong address so he refunded $50 of the purchase price even after I told him not to be so stupid. The lady across the road didn't know who to speak to as her daughter had signed for it and it had my real name on the invoice. Everyone knows me as Blue, whether I like it or not...

Anyway that's my experience and I guess they all vary. I read an article on another forum which was linked from a consumer affairs website which gave a whole heap of statistics about customer dissatisfaction and the number leaving Ebay for the greener pastures of Grays and a couple of other up and coming auction sites. The figures were quite scarey and an alleged contact by Ebay threatening legal action for defaming them was also noted in the article.

What was also scary was the allegations of serious fraud via Ebay and the number of pending cases against Ebay by dissatisfied customers who Ebay allegedly failed to assist.

Grays was given number 1 spot for customer satisfaction, capacity and willingness to follow through with customer concerns and security preedures in place to limit the proliferation of fraud.

I can't quote sources as I can't remember but I will have a look around and see if I can find the thread as it was an intereesting article... I had a quick search but it wasn't a thread started about ebay(was in Thumper Talk 4stroke dirtbike forums), it just degenerated into and ebay slagging match with a couple of notable references.

Just what I needed to hear, a marked man :)) From experience the only people who get burnt are the honest souls. And the low life soon turn them into something less desireable. Sad how we can end up being the lowest denominator !
I went to the dump the other day and the guy had to charge me as I'd told him I had a couple of tyres. He was amazed that I'd told him. Apparently most customers are less than honest.
Ah well, we all have our cross to bear I guess.

Poor Footie - everyone is picking on you . It's just not fair .

Footy,

Unfortunately it looks like honesty can get you into a lot of trouble Post 37651

Willie, stop pickin on me :))

Gramps, yes I can see how they got into strife. But surely there must have been signs at the settlement entrance or at the start of the track ?

Willie, I guess the reason I'm not filthy rich is that I'm too bloody honest. Just wait till I win lotto, then it will be *no more Mr Nice Guy*. I doubt if those who want any of it will find me ...the Great Sandy's a big place:))

Sadly I reckon the second chance offer is a ruse to allow someone else to jack up the price artificially and bail out if it doesnt work. The price should be recuded to your lowest offer before the other persons.......

In some cases that may be true. However I only offer if I have more than one availiable. Getting your mates to bid is a losers game as you suggested.

Hi there D-Jack, your right on the money, I caught one mob out and have reported them to ebay, they are following up, this come about by a product I bought not through ebay but direct from the factory, he told me to check out ebay to check on the quality of his product and his ratings, I thought yeah looks ok untill I had problems with the product then the person I bought from (brand new) didnt want to come to the party to fix the product so I did some investigating and found this person bidding on his own items in different names then winning himself and leaving a dodgy feed back. I emailed every single person that had bought some thing from this company and found with in ten minutes the middle man who I had been dealing with rang me and told me his big boss had just rang and blown him up for me emailing ebayers, funny I could not get this big bosses phone number at any time and yet some one from ebay could and ring me. I put 2 and 2 together and worked out that one of the people I had emailed was actually the boss himself, so I sent him another email through ebay and told him I was reporting him, funny I got my product replaced no further trouble but still reported him for screwing me around over a 2 week period scum like him deserve what they dish out. Regards Steve M

D-Jack, thats more often than not exactly what happens, It happened to me but luckily I was a wake up to it, its called "Schill Bidding" where you log on as another user or get your mate to bid for you.
I use e-bay a fair bit but I only buy from shops that allow local pick-up so I know they have shop or if I do buy private, I make sure I get a land line phone number & talk to them before any money changes hands & save all my e-mails from them until I recieve the goods, so far so good but if it looks or smells fishy, it probably is......

Me neither Mutha. Have had a couple of offers, one where I thought the retailer had ended buying as I had only put one lowly bid. I was prepared to buy as it was low. Another couple I absolutely ignored....

Hope you and the Old Rooster are well there

Pedro,

If you are still hunting for a Minelab give me a email on neil_hf@internode dot on dot net

Thanks Neil ...........

Yes .... am still in the market. Have sent you an eMail but just in case you can eMail me on pedrotheoneATbigpondDotcomDotau.

Have managed to secure one on eBay but I do so like a Plan B ...............

OUUUUUUUUCH!!!!

How many units of whole blood did you end up needing, Mark?

If I had of used all 40 razors I would have needed a transfusion for sure!