Dun lop SP Road grippers?

Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 20:06
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SP Road Grippers, the most criticised tyre out there!. I have them on my work 4by bought them on price only, but have to admit i carry a reasonable amount of weight all the time, travel into areas where new earth works are being done subdivisions etc, and have had no probs!. Was talking to a rail worker today and he does line inspection and works with a landy 130 tray back with 1.5t on its back all the time. My point is beaurepaires recommended these tyres on load rating to state rail, So why would they recommend chit if future sales to goverment depts was important ? Any one ever drove over railway ballast?? the sharpest hardest thing out there!! Not promoting the tyre (could not care less!!) But!! are they that Woeful??.

Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 20:56

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 20:56
Axle,

They came standard on the Lux. Worked fine in the Simpson and on lots of rough station tracks and some cross country. I don't think they'd be much chop in the mud and can get dicey on wet bitumen. I don't have a problem with them but others here definitely do LOLOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 21:22

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 21:22
Hi Gramps, Good to here from you!, I think the tyres are a bit like me Average!!.

HA HA HA HA .

Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 21:26

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 21:26
hahahaha and they say there is no such thing as the "average" person. I can now count two of us :))))

You're right though, the tyres are definitely nothing to write home about.
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Reply By: Jimbo - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 21:21

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 21:21
I've wondered about these. They came as standard tyres on our Outback Jayco, not sure that that means much.

However they do seem to have a very agressive tread pattern, albeit only about 7mm deep. They look up to the mark for off road work, big chunky tread, but are they any good? I wouldn't know.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew W (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 21:24

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 21:24
beaurepaires recommend tyres on load rating to state rail ... now there's a case, in my experience with both organisations, of the blind leading the blind.

StateRail is government owned, but operates independently of Government purchasing. Purchasing department would control what tyres were bought. It would have no idea how they performed and past tyre performance would not be monitored, if my experience with other parts of the organisation is anything to go by.

Beaurepaires know how to win the business - meet the tech spec (load rating) at the cheapest price.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 21:40

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 21:40
" Its always about the Price" Not the quality!.

Axle
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Reply By: markeaust - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:07

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:07
Have just done 12k km from Vic to WA via Tanami, Gibb, Gunbarrel, GCR with Road Grippers. I did a great deal of research on various forums before I bought them and I was unable to find ONE criticism of them in terms of reliability...no chipping of treads, no cracks etc. etc....whilst there were HEAPS of threads about Coopers/BFG and some of the other major brands. The only criticism I could find was poor service life. The first set of these were worn at 50K, whilst my previous BFG's on the Disco did 80k....

On the trip...carefully monitored pressure and generally ran them on the high to very high side (65psi loaded on bitumen...bit less on the hard gravel...less on very bad corrugations...and as low as 28 in sandy conditions)...all this worked out roughly with the 4psi hot/cold trick. No punctures at all..in fact the tyres hardly look like they've just done a 12k trip! No tread cracks, no chipping....NUDDA. I found them to grip quite well on gravel roads, but I drive slower to avoid damage and so I can see the countryside. Bitumen fine, mud OK, couldn't really notice any difference from the old BFG A/T's.

Now I will accept that their life may be less than the 'other' more heavily advertised tyres...but given that I can pick these tyres up by the bucket load (read CHEAP $165ea) from tyre dealers/wreckers etc..mainly from those who buy the new car and want (for whatever reason?) to fit shiny looking mags and fat tyres..it all suits my needs very nicely. Reasonable bang for the buck and seemingly good reliability.

Again just my opinion only, not a criticism of any other tyres.

Cheers,

Mark

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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:21

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:21
"no chipping of treads, no cracks etc. etc....whilst there were HEAPS of threads about Coopers/BFG and some of the other major brands"

LOL mirrors my experiences with them (and the others) as well. I've got two on the Lux with over 62k on them. Getting close to replacement time :)))
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:25

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:25
Very interesting! Isn't It.?
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:22

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:22
I have a couple of friends who have used them for many years on their 70#series. They buy them near new from tyre shops that have traded them. And from what I've seen they are a good 750R16 tyre.

I know Davoe has criticised them loudly on this forum but I personally don't know of anyone using them who had a problem.
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Follow Up By: nonon - Wednesday, Sep 13, 2006 at 00:52

Wednesday, Sep 13, 2006 at 00:52
Most of us know that Davoe is slightly hard on his tyres/vehicles. This is only a result of the terrain he travells. I think he [or some one] reffered to them as "road slippers"
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Friday, Sep 15, 2006 at 19:32

Friday, Sep 15, 2006 at 19:32
End of the day they are just an 8 ply tyre. And I have not been the only one with problems. When playing tyre changer for a convoy of Geos about 22 vehicles there were 4 flats. One on a jeep one on a troopy and 2 on a rental ute with road grippers with one stuffed. We certainly get alot more flats with the Rgs at work than the v steels. One look down the tyre tip at work also shows which tyres when used underground last with the mfr super lug, goodyear wranglers and michelin xyz all getting chucked out when bald but the Rgs nearly all stuffed with more than 1/2 theitr tread
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Reply By: Member - Prickle (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:40

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:40
We had them on the Lux, did the Simpson, (Sand) no probs. some mud/rock/stones no probs either.

Got around 90,000km out of them.

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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:58

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:58
90.000 ks!!. I'll keep buying them for the price they are.
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:49

Tuesday, Sep 12, 2006 at 22:49
The Super Grippers were on my Courier (ex Dept Sustainability & Env) when I bought it. The spare was near new and the others had done probably the kms on my vehicle when I bought it which was about 50,000.

They lasted another 12,000km before I replaced them and were still roadworthy. No chipping or cracking to mention, just well worn for what they'd done.

I replaced them with Coopers ST's and have just bought 2 more of those after another 50,000+ kms (bought early to have 2 good spares with at least 15,000km left on them.)

I was surprised how quiet the ST's were after the Super Grippers - I actually expected them to be noisier.

So my only criticism of the Dunlops would be noise - these were Super Grippers not Road Grippers. They did everything else well for a budget tyre.

Dave
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Wednesday, Sep 13, 2006 at 10:30

Wednesday, Sep 13, 2006 at 10:30
I'm not a fan. I've had a terrible run out of them on numerous vehicles. Tissue paper sidewalls. Working in the WA Goldfields driving off-road (ie: bush bashing) they were appalling. South Perth 4x4 have the lion's share of the exploration (ie:off-road) hire vehicle market and they use cross plies.

For 90% of use they are fine. For true 'off road' or 'off-track' use (in WA at least) it is cross ply tyres only. But then again, no radial is any any good.

Horses for courses.
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Reply By: Psi - Wednesday, Sep 13, 2006 at 20:13

Wednesday, Sep 13, 2006 at 20:13
Commonly known as Telecom Tyres......that's how long they have been around
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Reply By: Mobi Condo - Wednesday, Sep 13, 2006 at 22:35

Wednesday, Sep 13, 2006 at 22:35
Hello - we had them on our 80 Series as standard issue.
The 9 months of sand track driving and Stuart Highway driving we had on them when we were Woomera based were excellent (highway was the course gritty surface etc.).
But when we moved back down to Adelaide and had the smoother Hot Mix bitumen main roads we soon had troubles in the wet weather - We called them "No Grippers" as we had two VERY close shaves when they simply did not grip!
Cheers - Mobi
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