Registration paid thru the pump?

what he said.

Not so bad now but when we were living in the Pilbara it was a 1000km round trip to go shopping for anything more than basic groceries, even now Adelaide is still 400km away, so for those of you fortunate or unfortunate enough to live in a major city however you look at, please think these things through carefully before putting it out there

Cheers

Snowy

LOL! Truckster!!

Its ok Snowy, people in the bush dont matter... its all about the "ME" syndrome..

I'm with you gmd - have argued the point that boats shouldn't have to pay the 38c or whatever to the gov as we don't use the roads. was argued back that it pays por boatramps etc......well its probably similar to the fuel taxes, only a small portion actually makes it into roads, it would be interesting to see a balance sheet of the taxes and where they go....

Cheers Andrew

or the excise off fuel so it' not double taxed with the GST.

Leroy

Actually Lyn, the good Bracks Government in Victoria wiped out the pensioner discount on registrations. Cost pensioners an extra $80 for their vote to get him in, then on top of that there is the new toll road. You better not start me................ Plenty good taxes in the Nanny State

What about families that have four people (all with licences) and only one car that they share.
:)

Bit of a hard one - every situation has its problems. If the family of 4 use the car 4 times as much, its possibly fair if they all pay, but if the 2 kids drive rarely its a bit unfair. The fuel option is unfair on boaties and machinery operators etc, The current system stops me from having a buz box for commute travel when I don't really need the nissan. How about we abolish the rego thing all together, the stamp duty as well.....(lets not get started on stamp duty!)

Cheers Andrew

Morning John.

Mate I didn't realise you new words like (f*%#head).
A subject close to your heart no doubt.

Went North this year, and as usual it rained. Could not get into a couple of places we had planned to. Good trip though.

Regards

Wim

Point taken Wim, consider it deleted. It is a very (very, very) silly idea to target fuel for the registration.

I was wondering what happened with your tripping. Hope you are both well.

HIho,

Um, thats not very nice :-)

"What a f*%#head idea Richo."

You want to pay it on your tracks you do in the High Country too? - yes, if im using fuel to drive on them I dont see why not.

Maybe I didnt articulate the idea well enough, I thought I'd leave that for some intelligent discussion here :-(
Rebates can still apply, perhaps addressed at point of purchase. If you buy fuel in camooweal, it doesnt get taxed as high. Im sure you'd love to take a long drive in the country then?

Also, I think some people have missed the point. The levy would be charged on usage of fuel. If you chainsaw uses fuel, it is taxed. We're talking a few cents here for you to be able to cut down a whole tree.
Other comments (not you) also talked about multiple drivers of one vehicle. It is the vehicle usage which is taxed, has nothing to do with the actual driver.

Lets call it a carbon tax then.

And obviously, as discussed here, rebates can be applied in certain areas i.e. off road use, in fact little would change there.
I dont see whats wrong with paying 'more' tax on your fuel if you use a gas guzzling vehicle or drive a lot.
As for country users, it would be very easy to manipulate a levy and rebates to provide relief to those consumers.

OK maybe its not 'perfect' -I went out on a limb there, though I do like the idea of direct taxes for consumption, ala GST.

I see a lot of negatives here and noone likes change, but I thought it worthy of discussion.

cheers
richo

"I dont see whats wrong with paying 'more' tax on your fuel if you use a gas guzzling vehicle or drive a lot.
As for country users, it would be very easy to manipulate a levy and rebates to provide relief to those consumers."

I already pay less tax on my 7 litres/100km car and more on the 14 litres/100 ute. Its just trying to legitimise another taxing regime and saying that you charge less for a distance charge is just more public servants doing nothing more than administering your thoughts on taxes.

Some are flag fall type, registration and insurance are like that. Roads, and fuel are both the more you use, the more you pay. Fine on that one too. You pay them separately. Yes I know they have public servants administering those too. As I say, registration is an annual charge as is insurance, if you want to vary it paying it monthly, you pay more as it is more administration.

I live rural but am not a farmer so there would be no rebate, but I use a chainsaw, mower, brushcutter, do large round trips to the shop, take our eldest to school and swimming lessons etc so I'm sure I would lose out.

Then again my mower may be a registered vehicle and I can walk up the road taking up a whole lane? LOL

Bware, you may have to carry the number plates on your mower, or brushcutter and chainsaw round your neck as the insurance was to be paid with it, and no doubt it would be 3rd party cover. Just in case you slashed someones thong (shoe) with it......... Road worthy every couple of years too, just to ascertain you had actually paid for your fuel.

LOL. What about the adjustable lift-kit that comes standard on my mower?

"Rego is levied by individual States so we would need to have some sort of Federal road body, as distinct from the current system?"

Maybe thats the way to go.? State governments dont offer much value other than a political defence against a hostile federal government.

Theres been some really good points made here about the complexities of the issue, what surprised me was the comments about safety and roadworthiness. So there would have to be federal system applied, or at least a common State agreement.

which pretty much knocks the idea on the head really... :-(

cheers
richo

and a bigger beauracracy to check up everything, just to make sure the additional tax is to be paid and passed to government. How many extra public servants have we in the last 6-8 years? Blow it out even more.....

I know a bloke that does that and it cost him 19 cents a litre and has been doing it for a few years now.

Brian