2003 T/D Hilux LSD Too slippery

If history serves as a good indicator, that's toyota lsd's for ya...

Listen hear TJC.

Tell the truth - its a Navara and your just too embarrassed to own up to it.

And for the rest of the Nissan peantut gallery - No! he has got a JEEP either.

Ok! Ok! I'll be serious (maybe)

Talking to a gentleman last night who has got a JEEP. For some reason unknown even to himself he decided that he would stop the wear in his diffs by changing the oil to something called MBL (or similar) .

Apparently is full of lead and copper and can be used anywhere in the engine or drive train, where it coats all moving parts etc in this filthy chit.

Guess what - no more LSD. Diff works perfectly otherwise but no limited slip and the only was to fix it is piff the diff centre, flush it as best you can and then hope that the muck has been dispersed sufficiently not to interfere with the replacement.

Is it possible your diff in the Hilux may have had some 'additive' added or a different oil used on a service. I would imagine it would have been changed at least once since purchase.

Welcome to the world of Toyota LSD’s LOL

When Toyota repacks there LSD it will be to factory Specification so it will be useless off road, as it’s not done tight enough to be effective. This can be because of the way Toyota pack in their friction disks or because they don’t use many friction disks in there LSD’s.

The average Clutch type LSD will be toast by around 100,000k for off-road work anyway.

My Ford 8.8 Trac Loc LSD has 150,000 on it, and on road it still works but off road you get some articulation happening and it will cut in and out or just slip.

If you want a LSD that works take it to a Diff place and tell em to pack it up tight.

Or fit a Detroit True track LSD that will never wear out, the other option would be a auto mechanical locker.

Cheers.

Toyota LSD are infamous for their lousy LSD`s. My V6 4Runner had one after about 30,000 Km it was virtually useless. As soon as one rear wheel got the slightest amount of shifted to the opposite side rear, the wheel with the least resistance would spin
In the end I opted for Detroit lockers fron and rear and thats been the case since I bought ths last of the V6 4Runners. Now I am able to go through places where standard 4x4 with LSD`s cant make it. As they become cross axled the vehcile just stops, and many time its been a case of out with the snatch strap and a gentle tug gets them going.
Never felt that LSD`s were worth very much - some work better than others, but there comes a time when they all begin to fail. Am not a great lover of ARB air lockers for various reasons, but have found the Detroits to be simply great in all types of off road surfaces and the new models are even better then the ones I fitted back in 1996 . So think its time for an upgrade to the latest Detroits. The 4Runner has been a great medium sized 4x4 for only the two of us. Dont need anything bigger.

Hi Plantman.
The qoute I received for the latest Detroits, which are a vast improvment on the models that I had fitted in `96 are now +/- $1200 fitted. I`m planning on having the new lockers fitted to the front first - as that is the axle with the least amount of articulation, see how that goes then later towards the end of the year fit the latest Detroit to the rear. Hope that helps answer your question

Yeah it's a sad story I'm affraid. Mine's done about 140k and is still 'average'. I had an LSD in my Rocky and in my Frontera and they both kicked ass. This one is lathargic at best. It does work (sounds like it works better than yours) but it takes a few seconds for it to kick in and then you can still feel the diff slipping.

I notice it the most when you park on the side of a sealed road with two wheels in soft sand and two wheels on the road. When you drive off it spins and spins for about 2 seconds before you finally get some traction on the road. The frontera used to JOLT you as it locked in and then lurch out of the sand in the same situation.