Monday, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:04
I fairly much agree with everything said here except for the "endemic corruption and abuse". I work very closely with Police EVERY DAY and I fail to see it. I'm not saying it doesn't exist and I'm not saying that those who are guilty of violence, corruption or any other such abuse of power should not be dealt with appropriately. I also don't feel compacent about corruption, but, as someone here pointed out, there are nearly 13,000 members of the Victoria Police and if this corruption and abuse was as endemic as you seem to think, Mike, surely there would at least be some personal examples from others on this
forum, wouldn't there? Speak up those who have been bashed by the police.......(not just annoyed at speed camera fines or such...). Perhaps there would be a community completely out of control??
Nowhere did I say that you were not allowed to discuss this issue, Mike, but when you do, be prepared to rationally discuss it with those who may have differing opinions, which just may be more informed than yours, which seem to be based soley on what you read in the media.
I did have a quick look at the articles you posted and on the surface, the claims appear justified, however, I still support my main point that these are isolated incidents in a 'sea' of support, community awareness, appropriate application of the law, and a respect for the community as a whole, often in very challenging circumstances. Additionally, I would bet that there is a great deal of information conveniently omitted from these reports to satisfy the papers' readability and sensationalism requirements - even The Age.
I would also be interested to hear where your information on the purported reason for the appointment of an 'interstate female'. The Age Perhaps?? It is common practice in many organisations to look further afield for appropriate appointments, based on qualifications, track record, experience etc.. However, I too support her 'push' to weed out the bad eggs. I would hope any Chief Commissioner would do the same. I'm sorry you feel such utter animosity for the Police, as I only feel animosity towards those who do the wrong thing, just as I feel animosity for those selfish 4WDers who go about ripping up the bush with no concern for the tracks, environment or those who may wish to visit areas after them...but I don't generalise that to a whole community which, on the whole I feel is fairly responsible.
I hope this helps justify my position. Feel free to continue this healthy discussion to your hearts content, but you will not convince me that the vast majority of Police are corrupt, sorry.
Cheers,
Mark
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