fuel usage and our new tanks

And you don't even get a steering wheel for all that money.

Stu,
A metric tonne and an imperial ton are within a bee's pecker of each other.

1 Imperial ton is 2,240lbs.
1 Metric tonne is 1,000kg's
Obvious so far.

Now,
1kg = 2.2lbs, therefore 1 metric tonne = 2,200lbs = close enough to the same.

Yes, they are heavy suckers!!

Geoff.

Don't forget the trucks that they had to purpose build to carry the heavy suckers around with. The trucks are now over the load limit of the majority of the hwy's in Australia. What else do they want to buy?
The bloody things will never see a battle outside of Australia any way. So why not buy something that we would actually use in a war. They would have to be the most expensive training aids known to Australia.

Kev

why do we
need this sort of equipment ? If we ever would need it we do not
stand a chance anyway.

Why do you say that?

Exploder

Why do you say that?

I think that if our enemy (who ever they are) make a landing and start to invade and that we need the tanks to fight a ground war, were in trouble, unless we can win another battle in retreat.
Or thay land at Puckapunyal.

Richard

Jeez, Harold Screwball will have a field day with those suckers, eh?!! If he reckons the humble 4x4 is a "killing machine", when will he get his ugly mug on the box to tell us the downside of these? Ouch! It would REALLY sting if one hit you at the lights!!! (anywhere bloody else for that matter)......not to mention that big, unsafe protruding steel pipe......

I do not disagree with any of the other comments above. But these engines do burn almost any fuel or mixture of fuels. Kero, diesel, mixture of oils and kero in fact anything you can pump that will burn.

To run on any fuel would be a bonus as at 19l/km it would end up costing a heap of $'s for us taxpayers to keep them running if they were to run on purely diesel.

Sounds like they are talking about your 'tank' Roachie.

(Overloaded, over GVM obsolete piece of Nissan junk. If the 'enemy' saw it they would chit themselves from laughing)

dont think you guys living down there in your Syd/Mel ivory towers have any idea what is going on up north NOW?
The country is being invaded from the north at the moment, as we speak.
Hundreds of fishing boats are coming in every week, very few are even challenged, let alone stopped. I used to have a fishing boat up there, sold out a few years back. The boat has since been boarded several times, once they had to physically "assist" them off the vessel. This was less than a kilometer from the Kimberly coast. Earlier this year quite a few boats landed and completely cleaned out a reef of Trocus, part of a seeding program at one of the Aboriginal missions in a matter of days. (Lombardini? cant recall)
I still work up that way but on a much bigger vessel, and we see them by the DOZENS inside our waters.
How easy would it be for a hostile country/group to gather a stockpile of weapons etc up there without being detected.
Very unlikely to happen of course but without any sort of deterrent it would be even more wide open.
And how could we expect our allies to come and assist if we were too tight arsed to buy any weaponry ourselves?

B l o o d y Hell! Fisho

I wasn't aware that the situation was that bad 'up there'.

Just hope our new tanks are of the Amphibious variety, cause I am sure those Army Wallahs have got no idea how to air down a Tank.

Wonder if they the left overs from the Gulf War that are full of that Radio-active armour stuff.

You know! Protects your from the enemy but quietly roasts your gonads whilst your are in the sucker.

I will ring John Howard immediately and have him send them up there post haste.

Whats a recovery kit for a tank cost - don't think we can afford them so you will have tp make do.

Cheers

Ha Ha, I'll take your reply as light-hearted, rather than sarcastic, but the facts are as I have seen them with my own eyes, on a daily basis. If you are not in the industry or up that way regularly, you have no idea of the problems up that way.
Sure the tanks are not much good in a lot of those areas of course.
But a strong defence force is the backbone of a strong democracy, and it costs money.

But remember that Australia HAS to protect WA, as you would all be F...ed without us at the moment!!!

Nothing against a STRONG defence force .. by all means .. I am more militant in that regard then it might appear ... but I was talking about these specific tanks .. consider them a total waste of money ... I have no problem paying 10c more for a litre diesel when I know it's used for border protection ... so PLEASE do not get me wrong here ... I am a naturalised Australian, but rather "patriotic" ...
regards
gmd