Safari Snorkel

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Hello Everyone,
I drive a 3.0 TD Prado, apart from the obvious with river crossing and etc, does a snorkel make the engine perform better over all

Cheers Peter
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 20:57

Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 20:57
not really..
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Reply By: Notso - Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 21:02

Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 21:02
Gives you cleaner air, air filters last longer. Like most 4WDs now the prado sucks it's air from under the front mudguard. Lots of dust and water spray when it's wet so you'll end up with mud in the air cleaner.

Looks cool?? depending on your point of view.
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Reply By: Barnesy - Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 21:04

Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 21:04
Yes. On hot days having the intake near the engine means that it is sucking in already heated air, whereas with a snorkel it is getting cooler air.

Couple that to the effect it has of basically forcing air into the engine rather than being obstructed by grilles, wheel guards etc. Don't know exactly how much performance would be improved by but have heard too many people say it does to be false. Surely the turbo would like that.

When driving on dusty roads the air is a lot cleaner up high so the engine is getting cleaner air. Good for long term engine life.

Barnesy
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter A (VIC) - Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 21:09

Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 21:09
Thanks Barnesy, much appreciated
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 23:00

Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 23:00
easy to check
Reverse the head on your snorkel, and it will double any effect due to the venturi effect. I know a couple of people who have tried it and seen no change.
Though you would think there would be some effect.
I think it is probably negated by the length and corners.
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Follow Up By: Barnesy - Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 01:21

Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 01:21
I can see where you're coming from fish. Maybe the cooler air and cleaner filters make it run better?
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Follow Up By: Member - John R (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 08:28

Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 08:28
You won't really get any measurable ram recovery from a snorkel until approx 140 mph. ask any aeronautic engineer. :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:20

Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:20
I was just going to ask how fast one would have to go to get the ram effect with a snorkel. So the old Nissan 3lt on gas wont go fast enough to gain from fitting one. I can't even go fast enough to catch grasshoppers and butterflies in the grill.
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Follow Up By: Member - John R (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:35

Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:35
Muz,

Nitrous is your friend :-)

Alternatively, a GE J79 with afterburner is bound to impress :-))
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 13:22

Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 13:22
Thanks John R
I'll have to be off to see my dentist again then,,but then they don't use nitrous for fitting a plate do they? .....

Does it come in a G size bottle?

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Reply By: Toytruck - Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 21:18

Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 21:18
Peter A
as described above the snork will deliver cleaner cooler air. Many years ago Safari used to claim an increase in performance due to the "air ram" effect. Not sure if this was ever true as its hardly noticeable.

I would say if you doing lots of river crossings it will definately increase performance, donks don't like water:-)

my 2c
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Reply By: arowanaman - Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 21:19

Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 21:19
Well if you look at the many cold air induction kits on the market these days, you would be led to believe that they must make a difference. Well any of the kits that are made in such a way as to increase the amount cold air into the intake, will assist in producing increased performance and fuel economy. So fitting a snorkel would act the same as a cold air induction kit.

Almost of the manufacturers today seem to place the air intake behind headlights or in places where they are not going to receive much cold air or any cold air for that matter. Most air sucking in hot air from within the engine bay.

Go for the snorkel, it has many benefits.

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Glenn
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Reply By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 21:56

Tuesday, Sep 26, 2006 at 21:56
G'day peter A, we limp around('n around "n-- )in a 3l Rodeo. Fitted a Safari snorkel a while back, and can't say I've noticed any change.[In economy or filter deterioration].
I'm pretty gutless these days, and W E L L, I won't drive through more than ankle deep water , unless it's pressing.
Did notice a leak in the Safari system. Back to the installer, and they found that a screw/bolt ? had torn loose. Fixed it, and fine now.
As to a prior comment about "looking neat" or whatever, I'd much prefer to remain unseen. The less shi-/stuff hanging off your unit, the less attention you attract,(and that has gotter be good, eh). Be kind, travell safe.Jeff H.
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:12

Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:12
A snorkel attracts attention???

The only time mine has was a fine looking lady who asked ii that was a snorkel or was I just pleased to see her......

In petrol engine management systems, fuel economy can reduce if the IAT is colder, since that measurement feeds into the computer and it richens the mixture, a bit like putting on the choke. Also, if there were a RAM effect (which I doubt) the extra air going into the engine would also require more fuel to be mixed with it to keep the air/fuel ratio correct, this reading being fed in from the O2 sensor.

Overall affect on EFI petrol vehicles - no improvement in fuel economy, a likely decrease in fuel economy when in cold climates such as Melbourne in winter, Tassie in Winter, and also the outback overnight & early mornings. The only benefit is river crossings are possible and a little less dust in the filter.
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Reply By: OldMike2 - Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 15:26

Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 15:26
Short answer = NO

Long answer = NO, but keeps the water out

Mike
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 17:08

Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 17:08
you will soon learn that you should answer what the people want to hear.
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Reply By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 15:33

Wednesday, Sep 27, 2006 at 15:33
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