Please help me find this hill

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Hi all

I have the urge to visit Mamungkukumpurangkuntjunya Hill that I believed to be in or near the Everard Ranges, going by the co-ordinates.
Mimili Community say that they have no knowledge of this hill.

Can anyone help?
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Reply By: ZUKSCOOTERX90(QLD-MEMBER) - Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 18:21

Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 18:21
With a hill spelt like that i don't think there is a 4by that could climb over it.:)
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Reply By: Trevor R (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 18:36

Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 18:36
You could try this link HERE
at the bottom of this link there is a search function. It did not come up with anything on that spelling but there is a link to email someone which may be of more help???

Cheers, Trevor.
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Reply By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 18:39

Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 18:39
Woodsy, I think your false teeth ended up on the floor.........ROTFLMAO

What a place name, not quite as bad as a city in Thailand (Bangkok):

Krungthepmahanakornamornratanakosinmahintarayutthayamahadilokphop
nopparatrajathaniburiromudomrajaniwesmahasatharn
amornphimarnavatarnsathitsakkattiyavisanukamprasit.

One word, 163 letters....

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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 07:01

Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 07:01
Mebbe this isnt as long but still long enough

A small place in South Africa

Tweeblouwildebeestemeteenskootdwarsdeurdiehartemorsdoodgeskietfontein

69 letters which translated roughly, means

Two Blue Wildebeest killed with on shot through the heart at this fountain

I always thought that the longest place name in SA was

Lake Caddibarrawirracanna, which lies off track about halfway between William Creek and Coober Pedy
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Reply By: Footloose - Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 19:13

Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 19:13
Are you sure that's it's correct name. I'm no expert on aboriginal languages but a quick look suggests several words in there ??
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 19:55

Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 19:55
yep, longest placename in Australia.......shortest is "me"

Andrew
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Follow Up By: ZUKSCOOTERX90(QLD-MEMBER) - Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 20:02

Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 20:02
Wrong Andrew it is "I".:)
Bob.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 20:54

Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 20:54
U?
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Follow Up By: ZUKSCOOTERX90(QLD-MEMBER) - Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 07:33

Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 07:33
R, I, C, Y, U, is A.!!!!! :)
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Reply By: smort - Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 19:21

Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 19:21
Hi Woodsey et al

Try post 16482

Discussed there

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Reply By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 19:30

Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 19:30
Place Names Search: MAMUNGKUKUMPURANGKUNTJUNYA HILL
STATE: SA
CUSTODIAN: SA
FEATURE CODE: HILL (Hills & Mountains)
STATUS: Official
LATITUDE: 27º 07' S [Decimal Degrees -27.124º]
LONGITUDE: 132º 32' E [Decimal Degrees 132.545º]
EASTING: 257000 [UTM zone 53, GDA 94]
NORTHING: 6997000
FEATURE NUMBER: SA0078626
100K MAP No.: 5443

Was in the ExplorOz archive
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Follow Up By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 19:38

Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 19:38
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:21

Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:21
Bugger !!! That would be fun in the Pick This Place comp LOLOL
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Reply By: SunWizard - Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 20:03

Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 20:03
MAMUNGKUKUMPURANGKUNTJUNYA HILL SA HILL (Hills & Mountains)
LAT (DD MM) -27 07
LONG (DD MM) 132 32
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Reply By: Member - Mark & Jo (Brisbane) - Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 21:35

Saturday, Sep 30, 2006 at 21:35
Those words make 'supacalafragalisticexpalidoscious' belong on the grade one spelling bee test!

Cheers
Jo
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Reply By: Member - Woodsy - Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 08:41

Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 08:41
Thank you all for your interest & suggestions

I had done the Google Earth, Hema map, Google searches etc and they all still lead me to believe that MAMUNGKUKUMPURANGKUNTJUNYA Hill is in the Everard ranges near Mimili and pretty close to Victory Well campining ground.
The Mimili Community of the Anangu Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara Lands say that they have no knowledge of a hill of this name. Maybe it is a sacred ground, I don't know.

Because the Everard Ranges area is a native lands area it is not possible to wander in and do a recce.

So, at the moment, it looks like my quest may be unfulfilled.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:55

Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:55
Maybe they mightn't want to talk about the location due to its meaning........

Derivation of Name: Abna Meaning "where The Devil Urinates"

Andrew
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Reply By: Member No 1- Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 10:55

Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 10:55
Ho Hum.......
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Reply By: Toytruck - Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 19:08

Sunday, Oct 01, 2006 at 19:08
Woodsy,
I lived in the central desert region for some years and speak basic Pitjantjatjara. The name you suggest is not familiar in any way.....to me at least. It looks to me as a combination of words/adjectives that may have a very different meaning but certainly does not correlate with local dialect. Are you sure this is a singular name or an interpretation of a sentence describing an area of some significance.

Toytruck
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Follow Up By: Member - Woodsy - Monday, Oct 02, 2006 at 07:36

Monday, Oct 02, 2006 at 07:36
Morning Toytruck

Thank you for your interest

The name, Mamungkukumpurangkuntjunya Hill, is credited by Geoscience Australia as the longest placename in Australia. The spelling I got from there.
However a Google search does bring that name up a few times.
GoogleEarth does not recognise the name.

I also looked in the search section of the AusAnthrop aboriginal names/language database but there was no result
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Reply By: Dave R - Monday, Oct 02, 2006 at 13:26

Monday, Oct 02, 2006 at 13:26
Woodsy, can you forward me the co-ords please. I have an idea where to look, but I dont want to get your hopes up.
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Follow Up By: Member - Woodsy - Monday, Oct 02, 2006 at 13:56

Monday, Oct 02, 2006 at 13:56
Hi Dave R

This info is from this Forum and is backed up by Geoscience Australia.

Place Names Search: MAMUNGKUKUMPURANGKUNTJUNYA HILL
STATE: SA
CUSTODIAN: SA
FEATURE CODE: HILL (Hills & Mountains)
STATUS: Official
LATITUDE: 27º 07' S [Decimal Degrees -27.124º]
LONGITUDE: 132º 32' E [Decimal Degrees 132.545º]
EASTING: 257000 [UTM zone 53, GDA 94]
NORTHING: 6997000
FEATURE NUMBER: SA0078626
100K MAP No.: 5443

Happy 4 wheeling

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Monday, Oct 02, 2006 at 15:50

Monday, Oct 02, 2006 at 15:50
For more accurate coordinates and info, check out here ==> Site Link

Has someone actually checked on the 1:100000 topo (5443) for the exact feature location?

Andrew
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Follow Up By: Member - Woodsy - Tuesday, Oct 03, 2006 at 07:06

Tuesday, Oct 03, 2006 at 07:06
Thanks Andrew (QLD)

I have located the area on the normal maps and will pop into the map shop to look at these more detailed maps.

But I have just about given up as it appears that the aboriginal community in the area are professing no knowledge of this feature and don't want you in there visiting at our Australian landscape anyway.

Thanks everyone for your interest and help.
Happy 4 wheeling

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