4 x 4 Trucks

Submitted: Sunday, Oct 08, 2006 at 13:22
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I am looking for some advice about 4 x 4 trucks. Have seen some '93 models for around $23,000. I would be sorry to say goodbye to my 1988 Toyota HJ which I use for camping but want to offer my wife a bit more comfort. Have been thinking of a 4 x 4 with a pantech to make into accomodation. I figure I might get a suitable model for somewhat less at an auction but would be pleased to get some insight into this idea. If you want to point me to a website I can be posted on h.martin@ozemail.com.au otherwise any comments? Thanks.
Harry Townsville
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Oct 08, 2006 at 17:48

Sunday, Oct 08, 2006 at 17:48
Harry, not sure what u are meaning mate, dy amean a trayback 4x4 with curtain sides or something like that? Or a trailer?
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Follow Up By: harryopal - Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 11:59

Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 11:59
Good morning Bonz,
Thanks for the reply. I am thinking something like a 4 x 4 Isuzu with a tray back and a pantech ont that to build inside.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 18:12

Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 18:12
Gee that IS a rig then
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Reply By: Dave198 - Sunday, Oct 08, 2006 at 21:05

Sunday, Oct 08, 2006 at 21:05
Harry, I have bounced many kilometres over the top of a 4 X 4 Hino front axle.
They ain't too comfortable, I can tell ya.
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Follow Up By: harryopal - Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 12:00

Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 12:00
Dave, thanks for the notice. Had not really thought much about the front axle thing. Had driven an Isuzu truck on a made highway but I guess corruated roads and tracks might be a different proposition.
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Reply By: Chaz - Sunday, Oct 08, 2006 at 21:49

Sunday, Oct 08, 2006 at 21:49
Hi Harry,
I had a similar idea back in the 90’s and proceeded to build up an old Isuzu cab chassis with tray top and canopy. The truck was excellent and took us everywhere we wanted to go, but on long trips it was very uncomfortable. By the time my back and knees gave out, I realised it was time for a change. My next vehicle was bought on a comfort priority to say the least.

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Follow Up By: harryopal - Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 12:02

Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 12:02
Good morning Chaz, Thanks for the reply and pictures. Would the 90's Isuzu suspensions have improved?
And what was the main basis of the discomfort... simply being over the axle?
Harry
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Follow Up By: Chaz - Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 13:14

Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 13:14
Harry, my old truck was a 74 model but the suspensions on these haven’t changed much over the years. Essentially still leaf sprung and not very much travel.
I did spend a lot of time and effort in improving it though, by having the springs reset, fitting better gas shockers as well as fitting sway bars and improving its travel length. The best combination I found was to have softer suspension, but under extreme conditions it would bottom out and our heads hit the roof on a number of occasions.

The plusses were mainly related to space in the rear, but it had plenty of power and torque with the V8 and 4 speed auto. It would cruise at 110km/h at under 2000rpm and was reasonably economical considering it ran on gas.

The minuses were interior space, no room to fit an air conditioner, height and no driver seat adjustment. It would probably suit a short person more, but I found it very uncomfortable if traveling for more than a couple of hours. Also being a highly modified vehicle, much of it was custom made and spare parts in the bush could be an issue. Climbing in and out was a hassle for the missus.

If I were to do it again, I would look for something with an adjustable pneumatic driver seat, but I’ve only seen them in larger trucks, and yes sitting over the axel means you are going to feel every bump in a much harsher manner than sitting between the axles.

Overall I think this is a good concept, but a normal 4x4 Nissan or Toyota towing a fair sized camper or van does offer some advantages, but just to be different, I gave it a go. I do miss the old beast, but when I’m cruising down the freeway in the Patrol it’s like I’m driving a lounge chair compared to the truck.
Cheers
Chaz
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Follow Up By: harryopal - Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 14:01

Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 14:01
Chaz,
Thanks for the trouble. All food for thought. Another response suggested a 4 x 4 Dyna dual cab. I would have thought they were a bit underpowered. Know anything about them?
Yours tropically, Harry
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Follow Up By: Chaz - Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 14:19

Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 14:19
Harry, a mate of mine has a Dyna duel cab (not 4x4) with a Toyota diesel in it and he’s very happy with it. A bit slow, but it gets there. The Dyna is a good option because the front axel is forward of the cabin so you’re not sitting directly over it. Also much of toyota’s landcruiser gear fit’s them. I have seen an earlier one converted into 4WD using landcruiser axels and parts. Should all just bolt in, but I think he said that landcruiser brakes were slightly smaller.
It is one of the very few twin cab options.
Sounds like a project coming on!
Good luck,
Chaz
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Reply By: Bware (Tweed Valley) - Monday, Oct 09, 2006 at 02:12

Monday, Oct 09, 2006 at 02:12
Have you checked out Oka's? I don't own one but I think they're great but I suspect they are a "luv'em or hate'em" thing. Agree with the others regarding comfort; sitting over the front axles of a truck is a great novelty when you hire a pantec to move house or whatever, but the constant bouncing and reaching half-way across the cabin to change gears will make your HJ seem like heaven.

When you say "....offer my wife a bit more comfort.", are you talking about accommodation? Perhaps there are other other options? A small caravan, camper-trailer, slide-on...
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Follow Up By: harryopal - Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 12:12

Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 12:12
Bware, Thanks for the suggestion but from what I have seen of Okas I would have thought they were not so cheap and not sure how one would got for parts or even a windscreen in some of the more distant locations. Never cared for the notion of trailers or caravans. Slide on... maybe but those custom built rigs look expensive. Building inside a pantech with the spread across a truck base seems more attractive.
Harry
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Reply By: Troop-a-dour - Monday, Oct 09, 2006 at 08:54

Monday, Oct 09, 2006 at 08:54
How about a dual-cab 4x4 Dyna. Good size and can fit a good size 'camper' unit on it. I have a mate near Maryborough has one- if interested you could contact him??
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Follow Up By: harryopal - Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 12:14

Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 12:14
Troop a dour, Thanks for the suggestion. If you can give me your friends contact details I will talk to him. I had tended to think Dyna's looked like they did not have much muscle and maybe a limited cruising speed so it would be interesting to get a first hand account.
Harry
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Reply By: Eric Experience. - Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 20:41

Tuesday, Oct 10, 2006 at 20:41
Harry.
Wife and I have tried all the combinations and currently have a Mercedes sprinter 4x4. It has larger wheels to give more ground clearance, it has proved to be a very good compromise of comfort and economy. its only drawback is it is very noisy on corrugations. They are $112k new but you can pick up a used one for as low as $20k. Eric.
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