Big Haul Hand Winch Help Needed

Submitted: Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:07
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Hi all:

I am planning to give a mate some help this week dragging out some tree stumps on his land, and have been lucky enough (I think) to get a lend of a near new 1.6 tonne Big Haul Hand Winch and cable. This winch has come with an instruction book which reads like it was done by some Uni student with a Chinese to English Dictionary ... and I can't figure it out.

In short (and in English, please) .. how do I thread the cable into the winch??

Thanks heaps ...

Jack
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Reply By: Kev M - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:31

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:31
Put the winch into netural and feed the cable through the front end (narrow end) continue to pull cable through until the slack is taken up engage the gear lever and commence your weight loss circuit.
The gear lever is the one that the handle wont fit on. The 2 levers that the handle fits on are the forward and reverse levers.
Without pulling all my recovery gear out of the shed to activate neutral place the big haul on its end and push the gear lever down until it disengages, reverse for engaging.

Cheers Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:46

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:46
Much obliged Kev, and many thanks. Got it hooked up now. You have managed to put into a few simple and clear sentences what took a 6 page handbook to explain very badly.
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Reply By: D-Jack - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:43

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:43
I thinks I know your problem.

Engaging the gear lever is not a simple as just rocking it backward and forward. A considerable amount of down pressure is required to move it. Push down (toward the unit) and forward/backward at the same time. It was quite difficult to do on mine, so may be a 'new' winch issue. Once you disengage it, the rest is really easy, just thread cable through, engage and presto!

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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:47

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:47
Had the same issue when I bought mine - convinced it was broken, took it back to ARB, and it took the guys in the store about 20 minutes to figure out out. You really need to push down HARD before pushing forward to open the cable channel for feeding through.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:48

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 11:48
Yep - got it hooked up now. I cannot believe how bad the manual was at explaing this. I fiddled with it for about 2 hours, trying to follow the instructions. "Now reeve the cable" threw me for starters. Thanks for your help.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 12:43

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 12:43
Reeve is word not used very often now ...............

reeve  /riv/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[reev] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–verb (used with object), rove or reeved, reev-ing. Nautical
1. to pass (a rope or the like) through a hole, ring, or the like.
2. to fasten by placing through or around something.
3. to pass a rope through (the swallow of a block).
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 13:20

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 13:20
Yeah, I think the original Chinese manual was run throgh Google translator, or someone sat down with a Chinese-English dictionary and translated word-by-word with no regard to grammar. ARB admitted that the manual was crap, you would think that they would spend the couple of days it would take to whip up a usable one written by a native English speaker to "value add".
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Reply By: PatrolBen - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 13:15

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 13:15
If you've got a truck with a big capacity motor (preferably) and a few metres of chain there is an easier way. Dig around the stump till you can get a drag chain through it, lock in low range and with a nudge of the go pedal the stump should be out on the ground in no time. Last year I even used my 2.8TD patrol to drag out a evolution green tree stump that weighed over 700kg. There was just a slight rumble from the little donk as the slack was taken up, touch of throttle (didn't even need the turbo)and she just drove forward easily till there was a crack (tree no truck that is!!!), stopped put it back into high 2 and dragged the stump down to the front yard. The next stump however was around the tonne mark and my good ol HJ75 4.0l diesel trayback was enlisted; plucked it out with only 1000rpm on the tacho in low range. I tried using a high lift jack on a horozontal pull but got the bleep es up as it was taking too long (was using the cruiser as the anchor anyway!) and enlisted the help of horsepower.

Also felt frigging awesome doing it too :)

I know this is of absolutely no help as to deciphering the indo-chio-arabica-espagol instruction manual, but it sure a quicker and easier way to do the same job. Good Luck with it

Ben
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 16:38

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 16:38
Thanks Ben. Unfortunately a couple of the stumps are in a narrow strip down the side of his house, and we can't get a vehicle close enough. But the others .. well ... definitely a chain attached to the back of the car.

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Reply By: hoyks - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 13:18

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 13:18
If you are using it in very dusty conditions, you may find that it will take up the tension and you will haul on the lever but the cable won't pull through.

Tipping a bottle of water into the body of the winch will wash the dust out and let the jaws grab the cable properly.

I found this out after 30 wasted minutes hauling on the bloody thing trying to pull out some stumps in a North Queensland summer.

And use a snatch block if you have one. That way you may have a heart attack, but it wont kill you ;-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 16:43

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 16:43
Yep - pretty dusty where he is so this is good advice. Thanks.

As this is the first time at the business end of these winches since doing my Recovery course a few years ago, these tips will no doubt prove invaluable.

Luckily I have a snatch block, so I can dodge the really serious heart attack : )

Thanks again.

Jack
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Reply By: Time - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 16:09

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 16:09
Jack,

I have a PDF copy of their Owners Guide in English, not Chinglish. email me at time at emailaccount dot com and I will email back a copy.

Cheers

Tim
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 16:15

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 16:15
Me too please?

mike_harding@fastmail.fm
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 19:51

Sunday, Oct 15, 2006 at 19:51
Tritto

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Follow Up By: greggu - Monday, Oct 16, 2006 at 20:52

Monday, Oct 16, 2006 at 20:52
could you send me a copy of the readable version also to - matheng@bigpond.com
my thanks in anticipation
greggu
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