Gibb River Road-HELP NEEDED

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 17, 2006 at 14:18
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Hi Everyone,
I am posting this letter in the hope some of you will take 5 mins to write a quick note of support to the Minister and to Main Roads . Sorry this is so long but it is a big story and requires explanation.
When you first read the letter below you may think what the hell has this got to do with visitors to the area, it is a problem for locals. Well not so it has an effect on every person who visits this North Kimberely area. Presently the trucks can only bring half loads of fuel, this means double trips, this in turn means the freight cost to fuel suppliers will double, this in turn means that you the customer will be asked to cover these extra costs, this will mean extra on top of an already high price.
Even larger trucks ( triples in fact) are permissible on the other half of the Gibb River road and the Kalumburu Road so removing ( double only) trucks from half the GR Road road is not going to mean that someone can not run into one. Personally I think there is more chance of running into a large coach which can attain speeds that the trucks can not.
We the locals are not advocating danger to road users either locals or tourists. We are saying this problem MUST be fixed.
Three months have gone by since Main Roads realised they didn't know the status of their own road and so far not even an inspection to list the problem areas has occurred.
I have a photo of main roads own sign (still there today ) showing that the road is ok for 2 trailers, I just don't know how to post it here.
This whole saga is pathetic and it is in everyones best interest that funding be sought and granted and the problem fixed.
A couple of lines from any one of you to the people listed below (who are probably the ones most able to do something to fix this ) would be just great. In fact pass this on or send your letter to anyone you feel may help !
By the way I would also love a copy of any letter you may write as I am collecting all letters that are written.
I am putting this here because Main Roads have also mentioned they wished to hold a 'public consultation meeting' to see if the road should be upgraded. Well you are all included in this.
What a total waste of time and money just so everyone can say it is an essential service and needs to be made safe for all users.
While you personally may not enjoy meeting big trucks on any road ( who does) please look at this from a wider point of view. These trucks provide an essential service to remote areas, including supplies for you the visitor.
Thank you all, Anne

Alannah Mactiernan
alannah-mactiernan@dpc.wa.gov.au
Peter Podlaha
peter.podlaha@mainroads.wa.gov.au
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Dear Joanna,

I am writing to you as customer relations manager for the Main Roads Department. I want to know just exactly what is happening with the Gibb River Road from the Kalumburu junction to the Kununurra end.
I understand that you are enforcing a ban on trucks exceeding a certain length, this automatically bans all normal two trailer roadtrains from bringing our fuel supplies and taking out four deck loads of cattle for sale. It also bars contractors carting gear into Kalumburu with large trucks, considering housing work is again about to commence at the community this will be very interesting.
The facts are:
(1) This road the only access from Kununurra into the whole North Kimberley and was built to service the stations and business along it, tourism use is a secondary event.
(2) Full access for trucks is essential to the livelihood of all people along the Gibb River Road and also along the Kalumburu Road ( to which the only access from Kununurra is via the GR road) this road MUST be able to carry at least normal size two trailer road trains. It really should be upgraded to carry three trailers as it can from the Derby end.
(3) The fuel company has today had to make a delivery to us with half a normal load, they are not going to continue to do so without drastically increasing the cost of the freight, therefore the fuel. They have already had to do this several times to get fuel to Kalumburu and still have to deliver further supplies to the community there. They will also have to now return with a second trip bringing the other half of our load of wet season fuel supplies. This is doubling their freight costs and they will simply pass this on to all of us.
(4) This year Main Roads did major upgrade work to the GR road, you yourselves or your contractors used trucks that exceed the length limit.
(5) You have just spent millions doing up a section of the road surface and realigning the road ( a good job to I must say) BUT where is the point in all that money being spent resurfacing a section of a road when you have still failed to do the minimum work required at some other corners to make it useable by the essential traffic !
(6) We went through this nonsense about 15 years back, trucks were attempted to be banned then. Ernie Bridge followed through and due to the fact it was an essential service requirement, as far as we all knew the work was done and status was altered then to suit the need.
To be certain we have all, including yourselves and your contractors, been running trucks exceeding the limit you now say exists along that road ever since.
(7) I fail to understand how you could possibly justify spending the millions you just have on one small section of the road when this work and money has failed to make it suitable for it's required purpose.
A small part only of what you just spent would have probably solved what I understand are the few problem areas on tight corners where vision is restricted.
(8) Please find attached a photo I have just taken on the Gibb River Road just near the junction of the GR road and Kalumburu Road. This is clearly a legal Main roads sign and it clearly shows the road is ok for use by two full sized trailers. There is no other limit specified.
Have you been putting the incorrect signs on your own road for the last 15 odd years ?
(9) Your sign at the El Questro end of the road in fact shows three trailers and no other sign showing any change or lessening of that status exists further along the road.
(10) This ban has been in force for weeks but your sign is still there now. I have been away and when we drove home we saw not one but three trucks on that road that exceed the limit you now say exists. It would appear the fuel company is the only business that knows about the new rule and is abiding by it.
Considering your own signs advise otherwise this is not very surprising. Unless personally and individually told other users would not even know they were breaking the rules.
(11) The other stupid part to this is the fact that once the truck turns on the the Kalumburu Road, which is nothing but a Shire of Wyndham East Kimberely secondary access road, I gather they are again legal to pull two full size trailers.
(12) This ban affecting the fuel truck has already gone on to long. I rang and asked what was happening about 2 weeks back. As the fuel truck still can't bring the required fuel in the required manner I presume nothing at all has in fact been done to fix the problem.

This ban can not continue, you will cripple all the stations and Aboriginal communities dependent on this access road.

Perhaps one of the relevant responsible Ministers to whom I have also sent this email may be interested in helping us please by following through and getting a result to solve the problem. If I can get no action I will next involve the media who I am quite sure will have a field day with this one.

I personally can't credit the fact that your department has just noticed that it has been getting the road status wrong for 15 odd years.
We now have a ban on use of a road that is a hundred times better than it was 15 years back and has been consistently used by large trucks the entire time.

I suggest that a special money grant be arranged at once to fix the problem areas and the work started at once before the wet season prevents you doing so. You have already had about a month or more to get something happening, the present situation is intolerable.
We are all very upset about this and I look forward to a reply ASAP with a resolution to this huge problem for the North Kimberley residents .
All in all it will not cost a fortune for you to solve the problem.

Thank you, Anne Koeyers
Drysdale River Station.

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Reply By: Member - Hugh (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 17, 2006 at 14:35

Tuesday, Oct 17, 2006 at 14:35
Hi Anne,

In the face of such beaurocractic ineptitude, you sure must be frustrated. I think you've written a great letter and I sure hope the message gets through. I'll certainly follow-up with a letter to further your cause. As you say it really will affect everyone if fuel costs rise and with it other service costs.

Regards,
Hugh
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Reply By: Member - Hugh (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 17, 2006 at 15:55

Tuesday, Oct 17, 2006 at 15:55
Hi Anne,

Further to the above, sent the following email to Howard Sattler at 6PR radio. Who knows, may get some air time....

Hugh

Dear Howard,
I am hoping that you have time to review the attached email and letter, written by Anne Koeyers from Drysdale River Station in the Kimberley. In what really appears to be bureaucratic ineptitude from the Dept of Main Roads, people who live in this region are facing significant impact to their businesses and lives due to reduced heavy haulage trucking access. I think that it is very difficult for these people to be heard in the public forum and being geographically displaced from mainstream WA, with limited representation, makes them a soft target for Government inaction.
Anne is a regular contributor to a 4WD touring forum (ExplorOz.com) that I frequent and posted her plight today. She has always extended her hospitality to the 4WD touring fraternity, so I hope to help her by letting people in the City know of this problem. I have no other interest in this matter, other than wanting to see these people get some attention. I am hopeful that through your many contacts you may be able to highlight this issue and in doing so get the Government to take the necessary actions to resolve the problem. If you are able to follow this up via talkback radio during your Drive programme, perhaps even contacting Anne directly for comment, then I think that 6PR will have done the people of the North Kimberley a great service.
I’d like to thank you in advance for taking the time to read Anne’s email and letter.

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Follow Up By: Anne from Drysdale River Station - Tuesday, Oct 17, 2006 at 16:17

Tuesday, Oct 17, 2006 at 16:17
Oh well done Hugh !!!!
Thanks so much for the support, the only way anything will alter is if numbers of people make comment. No one is interested in listening to the few residents of the area, we do not have sufficent political clout ( numbers to low) for them to care what we think.
many thanks, Anne
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Reply By: Doodle - Tuesday, Oct 17, 2006 at 17:22

Tuesday, Oct 17, 2006 at 17:22
Hi Anne,
I have just sent the following to both adresses.

Cheers......Doodle

Dear Alannah Mactiernan / Peter Podlaha,

I recently read that double trailer road trains have been banned on the Gibb River Road from the Kalumburu junction to the Kununurra end. Even though I am a resident from the East Coast this is an area where my wife and I have visited for many years. I am now dreading the thought of the cost of refueling and restocking supplies as what only can be described as bureaucratic nonsense will surely result in a huge increase in already expensive freight costs. The people who will be hit hardest will naturally be the stations and aboriginal communities.

Please take the time to satisfy my curiosity. Are the double trailers banned in order to reduce road degradation, or to make the road safer for other users, or some other reason which escapes me?

To my knowledge, heavy loads spread over many wheels have less degrading effect on roads than a more concentrated weight over fewer wheels. If it is a safety issue, then why only the Kalumburu junction to the Kununurra section? I personally have never experienced a safety issue with the road trains be they single or triple trailers. I pull over and give them a wide berth – problem solved.

For the sake of the local residents and visitors from afar, I certainly hope this bureaucratic glitch is remedied without delay as I am sure it is already having a detrimental effect on the North Kimberly area.

Rgds.....Ken Nicoll

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Follow Up By: Doodle - Tuesday, Oct 17, 2006 at 17:38

Tuesday, Oct 17, 2006 at 17:38
Peter Podlaha is out of his office. He'll be back tomorrow.

Cheers......Doodle
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Follow Up By: Anne from Drysdale River Station - Tuesday, Oct 17, 2006 at 17:45

Tuesday, Oct 17, 2006 at 17:45
Good stuff Ken, they reckon it is a safety issue with the length of trucks getting round some tight corners or steep jump ups meeting a traveller coming the other way.
Problem is even they don't actually know yet as they haven't bothered to actually send anyone out to do a report listing the exact problem areas !
The Kalumburu road junction to Kununurra end is only just getting work in the last few years to bring it up to the standard of the Derby end. Reason being that the Derby end has been a major access road looked after for almost forever by main roads. The Kununurra end was a Shire road and had a lower status BUT from memory think main roads have now also had control of that part for at least 8 to 10 years so one would expect they would have first done works as required to make it suitable & safe for all the traffic that was already using it, instead of making little sections perfect and not fixing the problems that had an overall effect.
Again one can only presume they would have done so had they known ( or bothered to check) the legal status of their own road. They are now saying it has NEVER been approved for 2 trailer trucks despite using it themselves the whole time for those same size trucks doing their own work.
thanks, Anne
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Follow Up By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Wednesday, Oct 18, 2006 at 07:34

Wednesday, Oct 18, 2006 at 07:34
They seem to have no trouble putting up signs for every other purpose, surely they can put up signs in the danger areas warning of on coming trucks!

I will definitely be writing in support of your requests.

David
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Follow Up By: Anne from Drysdale River Station - Wednesday, Oct 18, 2006 at 14:24

Wednesday, Oct 18, 2006 at 14:24
Hi David,

Thank you very much. They have now decided to allow use for a month and give some form of permit for 6 months. This is great for the next 4 weeks except then the road will be closed for the next 6 months anyway.
As long as it doesn't get shoved under the carpet and the work to fix the problem is in fact done ASAP when the road opens then we appear to be heading in the right direction !
Thank you so much for the support.

cheers, Anne

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Follow Up By: David from David and Justine Olsen's 4WD Tag-Along - Wednesday, Oct 18, 2006 at 14:37

Wednesday, Oct 18, 2006 at 14:37
Anne

Well that's some good news at least. I pretty much copied Ken's letter with some changes. Hope you don't mind Ken.

Dear Alannah Mactiernan / Peter Podlaha,

I recently read that double trailer road trains have been banned on the Gibb River Road from the Kalumburu junction to the Kununurra end. Even though I am a resident from the East Coast this is an area where my wife and I have visited for many years, and an area our business relies upon. I am now dreading the thought of the cost of refueling and restocking supplies as what only can be described as bureaucratic nonsense will surely result in a huge increase in already expensive freight costs. The people who will be hit hardest will naturally be the stations and aboriginal communities.

Please take the time to satisfy my curiosity. Are the double trailers banned in order to reduce road degradation, or to make the road safer for other users, or some other reason which escapes me? Surely some well placed signs warning of oncoming trucks at jump-ups would suffice. The trucks move very slowly anyway, and the buses are more a danger.

To my knowledge, heavy loads spread over many wheels have less degrading effect on roads than a more concentrated weight over fewer wheels. If it is a safety issue, then why only the Kalumburu junction to the Kununurra section? I personally have never experienced a safety issue with the road trains be they single or triple trailers. I pull over and give them a wide berth – problem solved.

For the sake of the local residents and visitors from afar, I certainly hope this bureaucratic glitch is remedied without delay as I am sure it is already having a detrimental effect on the North Kimberly area.

David
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Follow Up By: Doodle - Thursday, Oct 19, 2006 at 08:49

Thursday, Oct 19, 2006 at 08:49
On the contrary David, I take it as a compliment.
Cheers……Ken
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