Portable GPS car navigation systems

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I am looking to purchase a portable GPS car navigation systems such as a Tom Tom, Navman or a Garmin iCN720 etc... I was wondering who has had experience with these types of GPS and what they would recommend as best suited to off road navigation. I would use this in the cities but would also like a device that is capable of having detailed off road maps stored also. Any help on this would be much appreciated, thanks in advance....
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Reply By: Tony Middleditch - Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 16:17

Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 16:17
Verno, generaly the units that you are thinking of are tied in with using propriety maps. These are well and good for 2WD type major & minor roads but fall short on detail when looking at 4wd track work.

A comparison would be to compare the detail of the Raster 250K series maps with the detail found in the Rooftop series. The former may have you travelling on a un-named red line or in a vacant place where the latter will show you the name of the track with comments on the terrain etc.

If you must use a moving map type display, consider using a PDA running Oziexplorer CE and maps suitable for your desired area. The PDA can be hooked up to any type of GPS with NMEA output.

My set-up uses the PDA in a Haicom mount with a compact flash GPS. It works very well. I also use a Garmin GPS11+ but it is not connected to the PDA (connection cables are not worth it).
If you have somewhere to mount it, a Laptop could also be connected up to any type of GPS (nmea output) to provide a larger screen version of a moving map display running Oziexplorer.
Oziexplorer / CE will not give you the turn to turn navigation provided with Tom Tom etc.
Cheers Tony, VK3CAT
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Monday, Oct 30, 2006 at 11:49

Monday, Oct 30, 2006 at 11:49
Tony,

I have been using the Natmap rasters. What are the rooftop series?

Thanks

Pete
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Follow Up By: Tony Middleditch - Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 06:41

Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 06:41
Pete, Rooftops maps can be found at
www.feathertopmapping.biz
Maps are for Vic high country.
Cheers, Tony
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 09:30

Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 09:30
Thanks Tony
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Reply By: Crackles - Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 17:13

Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 17:13
Verno the car navigation systems you mention are average at best in the main cities, poor in the country & almost useless outback or up the bush. As Tony previously mentioned a PDA will be more useful through all area's & I know Tom Tom have a Voice Nav program to run on the PDA, then you could run your more detailed maps with Oziexplorer etc.
Cheers Craig......
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Reply By: Member - Toolman (VIC) - Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 17:52

Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 17:52
Verno,
Ditto to what Tony wrote. There are systems around such as the Asus MyPal A636 with CoPilot Live Version 6, which should give you the best of both worlds. They are far more versatile than Tom Tom and similar set ups. Even Navman have a PDA based system but I can't remember the model. You don't have to stick to the Asus but look at what it offers and then shop around for similar or better setups in the PDA range. I use the Asus as purely an example.
Toolman
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 18:34

Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 18:34
I think the Navman PIN models are PDAs
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Reply By: DIO - Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 17:54

Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 17:54
I am using Garmin Quest. I find it is superb in the City and equally at home in the country. It has a PC (USB) connector and therefore can 'drive' the usual well know mapping software that is regularly mentione on this forum. I have also used it whilst in NZ and was very impressed with the detail (on the suppled base map) and didn't get lost once. It is also a great little unit to use as a hand held device, I have found my way around several interstate cities again without getting lost. In my (humble) opinion, good value for money although I'm sure that there'll be plenty with various viewpoints.

DIO
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Follow Up By: DIO - Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 18:31

Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 18:31
Forgot to mention, I bought mine from GPSOZ (they support this web site) and got a great deal for my trouble. GPSOZ

DIO
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Follow Up By: KKC - Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 19:08

Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 19:08
Hi Mio,

Can you manage to download NATMAP 2500 maps to your Garmin Quest ?

From the OZiExplorer, you can up/down load waypoints/Route/Track.
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Follow Up By: ZUKSCOOTERX90(QLD-MEMBER) - Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 21:04

Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 21:04
Even though i have not used it much yet i go with the Quest you load it to your puter & you can do the waypoint thingy & plot your own tracks all of the above what DIO said also if you want do search here on this using Quest you may turn up more info with Doug T who has had one for some time.
Cheer's Bob.
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Follow Up By: DIO - Monday, Oct 30, 2006 at 04:43

Monday, Oct 30, 2006 at 04:43
KKC, the Garmin, like many other GPS can be connected to a PC and 'provides' the navigation (i.e. it communicates with the satellites and then plots on a PC - if that's what you require). Of course you don't download NATMAP 2500 maps onto the GPS - who does that !! Besides, NOT everyone ALWAYS has the need to use a PC when navigating - that's the whole point with the Garmon Quest - you really don't need one.

Cheers
DIO
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Reply By: Member - TonyG (Qld) - Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 17:57

Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 17:57
Hi Verno,

I agree with Tony M.

I run a PDA using co-pilot street navigation software when on main roads (meaning all roads shown in street directory), and I use Oziexplorer when off road.

I have found this the best way to achieve both options you require

If you want any specific details, only too happy to help (if I can)

Hope this helps

TonyG

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Follow Up By: Craigww2 - Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 19:39

Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 19:39
Does the co-pilot give voice instructions for city nav?
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Follow Up By: Member - TonyG (Qld) - Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 20:05

Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 20:05
Hi Craigww2,

The co-pilot does come with voice navigation instructions

Thanks

TonyG
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Reply By: KKC - Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 19:13

Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 19:13
I am thinking another option is to buy a GPS Receiver with BlueTooth, it is mounted on dashboard with an external Antenna.

Get a support Arm which you can screw your Laptop on it , with a USB - bluetooth receiver. Where can I buy this support arm for a Nissan Patrol ? Do you guy know ?
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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 20:48

Sunday, Oct 29, 2006 at 20:48
Another vote for the PDA.

I run bluetooth stuff in the vehicle. A Dell Axim X50V PDA with a Globalsat BT338 GPS reciever. The mapping software loaded is Tom Tom for city stuff and Ozi Explorer for touring. The maps are on a 1gb SD card and 4gb CF card.

I also carry a laptop from time to time with Ozi loaded and use a bluetooth dongle. The bigger screen size is much easier to plot waypoints etc.

In addition I have a Megallen 315 which is still useful enough not to get rid off.
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Reply By: Craigww2 - Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 17:59

Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 17:59
I have the basic NMEA serial connection out of my GPS, what is the normal connection for a PDA and how do I acheive this if there is only USB connections. All advice is appreciated.

Thanks

Craig
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