Hot hubs?

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 15:36
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Hi all
I have just done swivel hubs and bearings on the 93 GQ.I've been for a run to test the bearings.Did about 30 kms at around 60-90 Kph(stop and start) and the bearing hubs felt hot (60 degrees C) I could only put fingers on them for about 30 seconds.Is this normal ? It was very hard to get the bearings right between a little play to no play at all so I have set them with no play.The reason I ask is im off down south in a week and dont want to stuff the bearings.I dont have much experience if these hubs normally run this hot.should I set them with a little play? I have read the manual but it is very hard to set them when you cant get a torque wrench on them.
Cheers Niffty
Perth
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Reply By: handy - Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 16:25

Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 16:25
i did mine awhile ago 92 gq and had the same dramas, mine were about the same as yours. the new work nissan turned up at site and i checked the temp on them and it made me a little less worried. if there to hot to touch at all you are going to have probs. i was trying to work out hits with hammer and chisel to NM. cheers
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Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 17:42

Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 17:42
They shouldn't get that hot unless you are hammering the brakes and a little play is far better than tight.
Quite often the heat can be due to the oil seal friction rather than the bearings too tight.
You did grease the seal didn't you?
What grease did you use?
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Follow Up By: Niffty - Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 18:07

Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 18:07
Hi handy and peter2
I used a tube spanner to tighten the bearing adjustment nuts.The hub seal was greased with timmkin bearing grease same as the bearings.Just so hard to remove the rock in the wheel from top to bottom.Might have to back off the bearing a tadd just to be safe!
Niffty
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Reply By: Nav 8 - Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 20:09

Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 20:09
Niffty,,,If the bearings are that hot they are too tight. The correct way to set wheel bearings is to tighten the lock nut until the bearing is tight to seat the bearings. You then back off the lock nut until the bearings have a little play then leave them at that. I just cant remember if the GQ has a lock tab or screws, if they are screws and you have trouble setting the adjustment to the screw holes, take the nuts off and turn the bearing plate over, thats the plate with the thread in and you should be right Regards ,,Nav.
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Reply By: Eric Experience. - Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 21:19

Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 21:19
Niffty.
The above advise is good, another thing is not to place to much grease in the bearings , if the grease is constantly being churned up it will get hot. Eric.
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Reply By: rustytruck - Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 22:12

Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 22:12
Just follow the manual for the correct procedure - it is usually right!
Rusty
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Reply By: cowpat - Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 23:21

Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 23:21
If you're off the bitumen you don't want to run them with any play. Every corrugation will be an impact load on the bearings. You want a bit of preload - what that does is increases the contact area between the rollers and the races and also makes up for the fact that they are not perfectly round/flat. I think in lateral movement we're talking 0.05 mm or so, a small fraction of a turn of the adjusting nut. You don't want too much preload either because the added friction will kill the grease from the heat and destroy them.

The right preload will require some effort over no preload to turn the hubs by the wheel studs (sans axles, calipers and wheels), but with the wheels on will feel easy to turn by the tyre. It will probably be the next possible set of screwholes/locknut tab/nut castellation beyond no preload, but be careful with locknuts because as you crank down the outer one the preload increases as the inner nut is forced inwards on the slack on the threads. As above, see your manual, pay attention to torque settings if they're provided. If you can't get a torque wrench on it estimate it with a scale or crudely by hand.

The hubs shouldn't get hot - but they will if you test them out in the city in stop-start traffic just because your brakes have to haul down three tonnes of steel every time you stop. Check them on your next decent run down the freeway.

Also if you expect to see much water make sure you replace the seals, Speedi-Seal the axle seal contact area if it's worn, and pack the hub almost full with eg ATX-P that's rated for wet applications rather then straight HTB which just seems to dissolve in water and turn it and your bearings into gooey brown muck! Casper
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Follow Up By: cowpat - Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 23:26

Tuesday, Oct 31, 2006 at 23:26
PS: I coat the axle seal contact area liberally with marine grease before I slide the hubs on; theory being that it will not dissolve easily in water and will serve to delay the inevitable just that little longer. Casper
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Reply By: Ron173 - Wednesday, Nov 01, 2006 at 15:15

Wednesday, Nov 01, 2006 at 15:15
I'm with Nav8 and Eric.

sounds like too tight, as said above do up and back off one flat or hole on castleated nut dependent on locking arrangement.

And as said DONT put too much grease in there, if you pack it tight they will overheat. There needs to be airspace too.

I had lotsa dealings with SKF at work and that was their instructions.

Ron
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Nov 04, 2006 at 23:16

Saturday, Nov 04, 2006 at 23:16
Your hot hubs would have been due to the brakes.

Adjusting until freeplay is just eliminated is the usual.
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