Electric toaster and kettle

Bob

Thanks for your response. I haven;t bought an inverter yet. I don't want to spend much (surprise surprise) so I guess I was wondering if i got a 500w (surge to 1000w) modified sine wave inverter from jaycar, would that power the toaster ? I am happy to live without the kettle.

I am dummy when it comes to electrics. So given that the specs of the taosetr say 1200 watts, if an inverter can only supply 1000watts will it still work but just take longer ? Or will stuff start to blow up and catch fire ?

Thanks

Cameron

Cammo, the normal rated output of the inverter HAS TO BE higher than the items you are plugging into it, no "if's", "but's" or "maybe's". Normal 2 slice cheapie toaster needs about 1000 watts (Just loooked at mine), normal electric jug 1500 watts.

Stick with a small $25 portable stove, a $2 gas bottle to suit, and a $2 wire mesh toaster rack. All available from Kmart. and it will still boil your $5 kettle too.

Those wire mesh toasters work a treat, quicker than an electric toaster any day, albeit one slice at a time.

It really sounds like you are trying to use sledgehammers to crack peanuts.

An inverter suitable to do the job is going to be upwards of $500, probably more like $7-800, then the extra battery to go with it and double battery management system, extra cabling, etc, etc, etc. All for a piece of toast in the morning?????!!!

Thanks Mike

I suspected as much.

1000w toaster will only draw 85amp/hrs off the battery plus loss through inverter usually around 10% if you run it for an hour and as a toaster is only on for a few minutes this should be no problem. 5 mins would equal approx 7amp/hrs plus inverter losses

Cammo you will need at least a 2000 watt inverter. I believe the surge rating is only for very short times to account for start up currents of small motors etc

Personally The jugs not worth it but the toaster maybe. All the toaster contraptions I have tried failed miserably except for the one you hold above the fire :)

Cheers Jim

That's why I said 85A and not 85Ah.

Yes it can be done - in situations that rely on inverter power it often is but it will require heavy cable and lugs etc on the DC side not to mention a battery which is capable of sustaining 85A for 10 minutes in addition to 1500Wish inverter. All this for a bit of toast which you could do more quickly over the gas!?

Mike Harding

I'm with Mike,

Both are a bit heavy for an inverter, and even if you had a big enough inverter, the current draw on battery would be shocking, not to mention heat in cables.

Stay well clear, go gas, you can actually buy some pretty good toasting devices specifically designed to sit on a gas ring.
Saw one recently was ceramic bottom with a gauze section for the toast to go in, $15.

Ron

Thansk Mike, Ron and Batboy for your responses. I think you are right when you say it is all a bit much for a bit of toast.

Just being clear Mikey
Plus I am a qualified smartass so had to put my $50.00 in

Cheers
Jim

>Plus I am a qualified smartass so had to put my $50.00 in

I like it :)

Well I'm told I'm a smart ass but I'm also told I've got no brains so I guess that just leaves "ass" and I'm broke so I can only put my 2c worth in.
My kids insist on taking the toaster camping and my wife insists on taking the electric jug so every morning I have to fuel, check the oil start the generator just for breakfast in the time it would take to use gas. When I go with mates toast tastes the same over a gas flame to me and I don't mind waiting for the gas kettle to boil but to keep everyone happy that is the way I do it.
wazzaaaa

This is becoming exy toast!! LOL

Cammo

It's all been said by others - heating appliances are far too power demanding to be sensibly run from batteries, and in any case a big enough inverter (or generator) will make the toast prohibitively expensive! What hasn't been refered to is the question of sine wave v's modified sine wave - There are very few applications where you need an expensive pure sine wave inverter (maybe for TV, radio or a quality sound system which might pick up some interference from an "impure" source). For anything else (eg power tools, or heating stuff) the far cheaper modified sine wave (switching) inverters are ok, though again, don't be too demanding on your batteries. Deep cycle batteries don't like fast discharge (I'd regard 20 amps as a sensible top limit, which amounts to only about 250 watts - half enough to run a 1/2" electric drill). The cranking battery used to start the engine will stand up to ten times that for brief periods, long enough to get the engine started so it can generate all your electricity requirements. Either way, they won't run high power gear like jugs and toasters for long !!!

HTH

John W