Crystal Creek camp site (Mitchell Plateau

Submitted: Saturday, Nov 04, 2006 at 23:44
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I was wondering if anyone has stayed at one of the Crystal Creek campsites up on the Mitchell Plateau recently. I have checked the trek notes but couldn't find any information on them. My friend was up there several years ago and he said I should probably give them a miss as the place is completely own and run by the sand flies. Any information would be great as I am looking at camping there next year during our Gibb River road run.

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Dave
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Reply By: EricMWA - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 00:19

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 00:19
Hi Dave,
We did the Kimberleys in July/Aug, 3 days on the Mitchell Plateau. Fantastic, never saw or heard of a sandfly. At that time the track in was a bit tricky, water levels fairly high but negotiable, by this time they should have dropped considerably. The campsite where we stayed was right in on the plateau, excellent campsite, I can't recall the campsite name. It's where the helicopters are based, as we flew into the falls and walked out which I would recommend to do. $75 cost each which I considered well worth it particularly in view of the camera and video shots that we got.
The campsite is operated by the Department of Environment & Conservation, (DEC)formerly CALM and they now charge camping fees.
We did the Gibb river road from Derby and then onto Kalumburu and back down to Fitzroy Crossing visiting all of the gorges.
I have info that I could give you including tracks loaded onto oziexplorer. How would you like to do that, I don't particularly want to display my email address on this open forum.
Eric.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jiarna (NT) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 00:40

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 00:40
Hi Eric

You can send Dave a Member Message with your email details, or send him an email. Just click on the "View Members Rig & Profile" link below his pic, and you'll see what I mean.

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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:32

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:32
Yep - agree with Eric. We were up the Mitchel Plateau at the same time, and also camped near the helicopters (love the smell of avgas in the morning ....) and no flies to worry us either. Great camp spot.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 14:29

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 14:29
I was up in Mitchell Falls campsite Mid September. The March flies were a bit annoying - are these 'SandFlies' in someone else's language???

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Follow Up By: Atomnaki - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 15:56

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 15:56
Eric,
I was interested to read that CALM are now charging camp fees at the Mitchell Falls campground (where the helicopters are). We camped there this year for 3 nights in late June and in July for 4 nights in 2004 and have never paid any fees.
When did this come in and what are the fees they are charging?
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Follow Up By: EricMWA - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 18:39

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 18:39
DEC are introducing camping fees to the Mitchell River campsite effective from 1st April 2007 for the general public. $6.50 (adult), and $2(child) per night.
Tourist operators fees will be effective from 1st April 2008.
Any track info and any DEC related issues within WA you access this through their website or a link through our 4WD Association which has a link to DEC, www.wa4wda.com.au
Eric
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Follow Up By: Dave & Shelley (NT) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 21:09

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 21:09
Hi Eric,

I would enjoy any information you have on the areas. I have been lucky enough to have my parents even send me hours of DVD footage from the there last visit up there this year. Any way points/tracks for OZEXPLORER would be great as I run it on my PDA GPS. You can contact me via the Member Message button or e-mail. I am currently unable to gain access to my standard e-mail account (until x-mas) due to work and travel.

Cheers mate

Dave
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Reply By: Member - George (WA) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 00:59

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 00:59
Hi Dave, I was there 2 years ago, at the Crystal Creek camp, and the place was unbearable with sand flies. That was in June
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 11:02

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 11:02
Been early 90's since I was last there. The sign at the edge of the plateau, before you descended to Crystal Creek, said "To Crystal Creek - crododiles and sandflies abound".
I took the sign at its word and camped back at the Mitchel Falls campsite, tho I did visit Crystal Creek on a day drive.
Was the track out to Walsh Point driveable when you were there? It was a nice place to visit, with middens, and also crocs to greet you.

My recollection of the last visit to the Mitchell Falls campsite ('92) was the helicopter (which had taken over the best campsite, and fuel drums everywhere) starting up at 6am and warming the motor for 15 minutes each day. With us camping 100 metres away, its presence was noted. I hope things have changed, as our first visit to the Falls campsite in '90 was one of peace and tranquility on Myrten Creek. The second visit made up my mind that I wouldn't go back if the helicopter was staying. I know these copters have their place in these areas, but, for example, the copter at the Bungles is located well away from the campsite, and does not fly over the camp.
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Follow Up By: Member - George (WA) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 15:00

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 15:00
The helicopter now has a permanent site at Michell Falls and is not far from the camping site. We have to put up with the helicopter noise. Mitchell Falls is usually not bad for sand flies cause you are away from the mangroves as opposed to Crystal Creek which is surrounded by mangroves. For those that don't know the difference between sand flies and march flies, sand flies are the very small black buggers and you don't know they have been on you till the next day when you start scratching. March flies are the big buggers that bite you and you will know straight away, you can at least see them but don't have any lasting effects after they bite that I know of. the sand flies bites will last for up to 2 weeks
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Follow Up By: Dave & Shelley (NT) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 20:58

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 20:58
Thanks for the information guys. I suppose I was getting my hopes up. I was hoping that the sand flies might have been a seasonal thing. After all your responses, I think I will strike it from our camping roster and check it out on a day trip. Is there anywhere else around the area for bush camping, somewhere away from helicopters and such????
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Reply By: Member - John P (NT) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 11:11

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 11:11
Dave ,My son was at Crystal Creek last month-as opposed to the Mitchell Falls camping area which the above posts refer to .Terrible road ,limited fishing access,lots of sand flies-interesting but a lot of effort. However I am pretty sure it will be off limits in the future as it is in an area being given back to the Aboriginals and they are going to close access. However Port Warrender just to the SE will still be accessible.
John
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Follow Up By: Dave & Shelley (NT) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 21:00

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 21:00
Does the land handover sound like it might be in the near future or is it a "one day" affair where no-one will really know until it happens. Hopefully access along the track wont be affect. Thanks for the heads up mate.

Dave
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Reply By: Member - John P (NT) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 23:49

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 23:49
Dave, I was told about the land handover by Ron Moon while I was up at Kalumburu in Sept. I got the impression it was to occur by next dry.However you never know for sure till they do happen so it would pay to check before leaving . John
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Reply By: Garbutt - Monday, Nov 06, 2006 at 09:53

Monday, Nov 06, 2006 at 09:53
G'day dave and Shelley.
We were there June this year and were recommended to stay at King Edward River camp site and drive into Mitchell Falls on a day trip. When we checked out King Edward River the good sites were all being used and only dusty, no shade ones left. We went into Mitchell Falls campground and didn't regret it at all, good shade, no flies, magnificent place, we could walk to little Mertens Falls from the campground for a swim, was just great. The area was the highlight of the Kimberley for me. And yes the chopper starts early but the sun was up before it started so it didn't worry us.

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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 07, 2006 at 21:06

Tuesday, Nov 07, 2006 at 21:06
We were there in June this year not one fly at Mitchell Plateau campground. 28 vehicles camping the day we departed. Generator area full also. Choppers annoying but you get that these days. In June King Edward River was reported as being 750 deep on the ABC but I think it was deeper. From the "Are we there yet" sign it's still 23 k's to go. LOL Track in was good. Couple of swampy/muddy creeks that we hadn't heard about and these were about 450 deep. Excellent spot great swimming, photos, views etc. Wade across the river to the falls can be a bit daunting. Pit dunny's stink at dawn and at night. Vix under and in the nostrils works a treat. Wife reckons the Mitchell was the highlight of our trip. Road from Drysdale to the turn-off was a nightmare. But that's the Kimberley for you.
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