80 Series 1hz water pump
Submitted: Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 10:28
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sonny
I want to replace the
water pump as precautionary maintenance in preparation for a trip next year up through the gulf and over to the Kimberly's.
Genuine
water pump is around $170. After market non genuine around $110.
Anybody had any experiences with non genuine 80 series
water pumps that would steer me away from it?
Thanks
Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 10:45
Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 10:45
For $60 why compromise your trip? You are prepared to pay out thousands for your trip but if enough people said non genuine was OK you would go that way.
It because of this mentality that some genuine parts are overpriced. Those pumps were closer to $300 some years back but with lobbying by the dealers a price subsidy program was brought out to substantially reduce the cost of specific fast movers to bring them more in line with aftermarket.
Now if enough people save $ 60 then the program is deemed unsuccessfull and back up go the prices.
Your 80 is probably more than 10 years old which equate to $17 per year and I bet not much else has been spent on it apart from servicing.
Unless you regularly go to the Kimberleys dont compromise your vehicle to save a couple of dollars. If it only precautionary then save the money up.
And buy the way might pay to get the radiator cleaned or replaced and don't skimp on the coolant by buying cheap coolant. One of the best fore the 80 is the genuine stuff but any high grade stuff will do.
No affiliation with Toyota.......
well not anymore anyway.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 10:46
Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 10:46
This might make make you think straight . I had the old original
water pump spring a leak and i was lucky as I had just got back into Mt Isa from a job to
Normanton, replaced it with aftermarket , Croc brand or something, it lasted 6 months, Partingtons replaced it with a new one but it cost me to have it fitted, it lasted about 13 months ,went to Bell & Moir Toyota and had a Genuine fitted , 12 months warranty with workmanship and part,no problems so far after 14 months , so now it's your choice.
Doug
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 20:54
Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 20:54
To change the pump, the timing belt has to come off....i would buy a genuine one because it is soooo hard to do again...for what its worth, i wouldnt bother with the precaution, as it will probably last 200000kms. Take a spare by all means.
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Reply By: Footloose - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 10:53
Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 10:53
I agree. Don't try and save a few dollars if there's any chance the new bits won't last. While having it done, do the radiateor, clutch fan and get a
water alarm fitted. Also check your steering pump to see if it's leaking, and have a good think about how good your
suspension is.
Spending money at home is far cheaper than trying to get it done in the bush.
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Reply By: Member - Nick (Kununurra) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 12:09
Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 12:09
While I agree with whats everyone's said, Ive personally fitted maybe 8-10 non genuine
water pumps to vehicles over the years and have never had one fail.But I always fit "named" after market pumps, not no name types.Dont forget that which ever one you fit, chuck the old(but nothing wrong with) in as a spare.
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Reply By: Member - Jiarna (NT) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 19:35
Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 19:35
I put a non-genuine
water pump in my 80 2 1/2 years ago, no problems since. Usually only put genuine parts in my Toyota where possible, but the waterpump needed replacing in the bush and the local mechanic only had a non-genuine pump on hand.
Depends where you get your genuine parts from, too. I have found Don Kyatt Spares to be great value for both genuine and aftermarket spares - www.donkyatt.com.au Certainly cheaper and better stocked than the dealer!!
Cheers
John
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Reply By: luch - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 19:39
Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 19:39
Ive put a after market pump in my 1hz and its been fine
we have also put an after market pump in our other 80 series 1hdt withe no problems
Both Landcruisers had done over 300,000 kms when the Genuine pump was replaced
However for the sake of $60 and the trip you plan to do go Genuine
WHILE YOU ARE REPLACING THE
WATER PUMP
This is a good opertunity to replace the welsh Plugs with brass ones
You will have 2 behind the timing case 50mm and a 40mm
Also change the Camshaft seal in the timing case
if this seal leaks it makes a huge mess inside the timing case (not good for the belt or the tensioner)
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Reply By: 120scruiser (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 21:05
Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 21:05
Genuine pumps give very few problems so I would stick with them.
I mostly use genuine ones in my workshop.
120scruiser
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Reply By: Member - Reiner G (QLD) 4124 - Monday, Nov 06, 2006 at 22:04
Monday, Nov 06, 2006 at 22:04
I just replaced my timingbelt ( HZ) and thought while I'm at it replaced the waterpump plus the three belts at the same time. With a good manual not hard to do and the money I saved in labour i spend on genuine parts.
Not sure if I would touch the welch plugs if there is no problem. My HJ47 has still the original ones in since 1981.
I'm not a mechanic at all but I try to do as much as I can myself and done
well with my old cruiser. Every 5000 motoroil change and every 10,000 oil and filters. The money I save I spend on good oils and filters.
My 2 cents worth anyway.
Happy Travels
Reiner
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