Soundproofing the Chev V8

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 12:34
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My regular readers will know that my "Chevissan" is a "noise polluter". I'm slowly quietening it down.

The latest effort is to insulate the front passnger area. I'll do the bonnet next. I had a word with Marlin Seals and Insulation in Fremantle - they're in the phone book. They do ships' engine rooms and the like. Mark, the guy there, certainly knows his stuff. I have no connection with the company BTW.

I paid $175.00 for 2 sheets of differing sound insulation materials. The first is for the passenger area & is about 5 mill thick consisting of a foam layer, a layer of barium ( ya can't use lead anymore, it's illegal) and a layer of protective vynil. The barium barrier absorbs and kills the sound energy.

When fitting this stuff, you have to ensure that the Barium/foam barrier does not touch the steel of the floor pan or bulkhead/firewall. the technical term for this is "decoupling". You should make every attempt to plug all holes and crannies - damn near impossible without ripping the whole dashboard out. Alas, when I ripped out the seats, consoles, gear levers and existing floor matting, the Nissan felt insulation came out as well, stuck to the back of the carpets. So I had to fit some polyester fibre to floor before putting down the barrier material. I got lucky here as my next door neighbour gave me a huge roll of the stuff that he found on the side of the road on his way home from night shift.

It was a bugger of a job all round, but well worth it. I can now listen to the radio at 100 kmh!! It's not "Rolls Royce quiet" by any means, but it's very much improved. I'll be doing the rear passenger area in a similar fashion. This should be a much easier job as I have no back seats at all in the "Chevissan".

The next job is the bonnet. The sound insulation for this bit is different to the inside stuff. It's about 30mm thick and includes the same barium layer. Hence its less dense but has the same Db sound insulation qualities.

This should make a big difference to the sound levels at traffic lights etc. "Cos right now it's quieter when moving than it is when stopped!!

If you do have to remove any of your seats for any reason be VERY careful when replacing the seat bolts. They are a fine metric thread (pitch 1.25mm) and strip very easily if not lined up properly. The extra thickness of the barium barrier throws the bolt/hole alignment out by a long way. You have to cut a fair bit of the old carpet out around the seat mountings.

I took a chance on one bolt and thought "that feels passable" and it chewed it up. I haven't stripped a thread for 25 years!! I usually have a good eye for these things. I had go & buy a 10mm by 1.25 tap to clean it up. Cost was $34.00. Bummer!!

If you think yer truck is noisy, I'd recommend this stuff. It certainly makes a difference. And it's not that expensive either. Just a bit time consuming and awkward. But once you've done one , ya know where the traps are.

In fact I might start doing this as a business!! Nice little earner for a retired old bloke like meself.

Take Care,

Bilbo
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Reply By: Member - Ian W (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 13:59

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 13:59
Thanks for the update Bilbo. Have been following your Chivissan chronicles with interest and would like to hear more as the vehicle beds in

Regards,
Ian
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Reply By: Bilbo - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 14:26

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 14:26
Ian,

Thanks for the interest.

The truck's gettting better all the time. I'm now noticing certain things like -it's impossible to get fast change with GQ gearbox and the heavy duty clutch. Neither can you afford a "lazy change" either.

The fuel consumption is improving and is now nearly as good my previous 100 series TD Landcruiser.

As the engine settles in and is now freeing up a bit. it's also easier to drive. A lot smoother and free flowing on gear changes.

The clutch is still heavy though and I think I'm gonna have to have a look at the diaphragm in the vacuum assisted clutch master cylnder. I reckon it's got a pinhole leak in it. It shouldn't be this heavy.

The noise is a problem for me. You wouldn't beleive this as I'm deaf in both ears and wear 2 hearing aids. But the problem is one, that the hearing aids amplify evrything and two, my hearing problem has the secondary effect of losing all "hearing selectvity". This means my hearing gets overwhelmed by excessive noise. This is extremely irritating. And I mean "extremely"

I'll keep posting on the "Chevissan" as time goes by. If anyone wants advice on getting one converted then they can feel free to email me.

Biilbo
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 15:02

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 15:02
Hi Bilbo, Will be interested to see how the bonnet insulation goes, would love to do something with the defender, the original crap has fallen off!, Sounds like a great product your onto there.

cheers Axle.
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 17:24

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 17:24
I used to wear those disposable foam ear plug thingies on a long drive. As a lifetime, all weather 'window down' driver I've been doing this for years as it cuts the wind noise but you can still hear the radio / UHF for some reason.

Got to admit that now after 19 years of dust, heat and rain with the window down, I've finally managed to feel comfortable with the window up in my 100 series and it is certainly a better way to travel. However, I still wind it down whenever I'm approaching a town or when concentrating such as overtaking for some reason. From bitter experience, the missus knows to always pack a doona and beanie wherever we go.

I think there's a product around called 'body shutz' or something similar that's a spray on bitumen coating for underbody sound deadening applications too. May be worth investigating too.

Good luck mate!
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 17:44

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 17:44
V8 Diesel , Theres something about that CLOSED in feeling when ya got to concentrate!.
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Monday, Nov 06, 2006 at 09:42

Monday, Nov 06, 2006 at 09:42
Yeah, it's just not right for some reason. I can hear if things don't sound the way they should, can smell leaked coolant, hot engine oil where it shouldn't be, electrical overloads etc......my passengers hate it but it's second nature to me.

I also came from the school of never using your clutch in Road Ranger / Mack gearboxes except for the first start and the last stop of a trip. Never had a problem until I drove a brand new Isuzu with a diesel that was as quiet as a Rolls Royce inside the cab. Buggered if I could get that thing right. Double clutch on that one.
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Reply By: Rock Crawler - Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 20:27

Sunday, Nov 05, 2006 at 20:27
tried most on the market , now only use one

Dynamat Xtreme . Best product on the market
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Reply By: traveller2 - Monday, Nov 06, 2006 at 15:19

Monday, Nov 06, 2006 at 15:19
Bilbo
Another one that you may have already covered is to insulate the intake tract between the aircleaner and the manifold, the Chev's have a lot of induction noise and this was a mod done to later Humvee's to reduce cabin noise.
It reduced the engine noise into the cabin so much they deleted most of the underbonnet soundproofing on the post 88 trucks.
All they did was put about a 1mm thick rubber coating on the outside of the plastic duct between the aircleaner and intake to achieve a huge drop in induction roar. In your case you could either coat it in some sort of rubberised paint/coating or wrap it in underbonnet insulation (the sticky back stuff should work).
Also make sure that none of the air intake ducting/trunking is any less than 3 1/2" ID as they use a lot of air and go better with an unrestricted supply.
The Humvee's intake is a minimum of 4" all the way.
Peter
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Monday, Nov 06, 2006 at 18:20

Monday, Nov 06, 2006 at 18:20
Trav,

Now that's interesting and me being an ex-mechanic ya would think that I would have thought of it!!

I did think about how to reduce the diesel rattle and I haven't yet come up with an idea for that.

But "intake roar". Yes!! That's the "roar" that I haven't yet defined but it's also what makes driving this beast so defintiive. That "ROAR"

Yep - it's gotta go. It's such a simple fix as well!!

Thanks muchly "Trav".

Bilbo
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