NEW 4.8 Patrol. no sub tank?????

Don' t know about the 4.8 but like you Teabag we replaced our standard tanks for the larger ones giving us 215lts as well.

D&B

Yep, one of the best extras I have fitted as I hate carrying jerry cans and the touring benifits are excellent.......

The earlier model GU 4.8 (02) definately came out with a subby, have a friend who bought one from new so just replacing the main with a long ranger, it roughly got it up to 190 litres with the sub tank.

Nissan couldnt tell me why they discontinued it with the petrol model only, but it doesnt make sense??

Now Im confused, just rang ARB and long ranger and the guy says 145ltr replacement tank only, no sub tank regardless petrol or TD.

What after market tanks are you guy's running? And wher did yuo get them from?

Cheers

Hi ingo57, we replaced our original tanks on the 4.2TD at ARB in Welshpool. main tank holds 145lt and the sub holds 70Lt. Not sure where ARB got them from, one of our good decisions!!!!

Cheers

D&B

Ingo,

Is there anything under the floor of your GU (I mean under the driver's side passenger, where the sub tank is normally found)....like a muffler etc? If not, I would assume the captive nuts etc (that are used to hold the sub-tank on other models) would still be there and that a aftermarket subtank shouldn't be too hard to fit.

I've got the 145 litre Long Ranger main tank, but haven't shelled out the bikkies for the bigger sub. There is a mob that make an 81 litre replacement sub tank.

Mate, both are Longranger. 145ltr Main and 70Ltr Sub and it is in the ARB catalogue......

I havent got the patrol yet, Its something that Im needing to be sure of before I buy, the 4.8 is pretty thirsty as every one knows so every bit counts.
Will have to go back to the dealer and have a good look under there. If it cant be done my next option is the Prado which Im not totally convinced on.

These big car companys dont seem to make sense....... The Nissan 3ltrs seem to have been blowing up left right and centre. The 4.2 seems to be the pick of the bunch, yet I would like a bit more power, and the 4.8 has now dropped the sub tank which uses more fuel than the lot of em?

The Prado is a smaller vehicle than the 100 series yet it has the better fornt suspension and diff, is more powerful than the 100 series V8, the prado has its spare on the rear door where the 100 series drags it along a heavilly rutted track?

" After sales service with toyota is better than Nissan" doesnt mean jack with a blown front diff in the middle of the desert!!!!

Thanks for your imput anyway guys, much appreciated.

Hi ingo
4.2 intercooled TD Nissan with a Mike Vine upgrade, $2000 plus dump pipe and exhaust ($900) = 155hp and 462 nm torque. The TD cruiser 150hp and 420nm torque.

Avagoodn
Pezza

What is your reservation on the Prado Ingo? - with 180 lt standard, wheel already on the back as you say, they're pretty decent (ie not much more to spend). There is a previous post (last day or two) where it shows the power of the new common rail - I remember it was a decent number ;-)

A little bit smaller around town too (and on the tighter tracks) which doesn't hurt - the only reason we went the 100 was for three growing boys in the back seat - otherwise we would have had the Prado as well

I nearly brought a prado until I read things like this Site Link I know all manufacters have their problems but it does seem a little wide spead.
From everything else I hear there a good thing but once I drove a crd jeep(160kw 510nm) and the pardo seemed abit bland.
So I went the jeep. Test drive everything before you lay down the cash, glad I did.

Hi Stu - gotta agree there are a fair load of problems there - but I'm on a couple of Prado lists, and I think it would be fair to say that satisfaction is much more often positive than it is negative (as it should be!!) The only other comment is for the Grande - for anyone wanting to modify suspension, I understand these are nothing but problems because of their standard air bags..

For the Jeep, I don't have any experience, so can't comment

Just finished reading the biography of that guys Prado, doesnt sound too convincing....to say the least

think I will take roachie's advice and will go and have another look at the GU tomorrow to see whether the bolt holes etc are still there to fit the sub tank, providing nothing else is restricting it.

Nothing against the diesals but petrol power is what I need so will see how I go tomorrow at the dealer.

Hi Guys,
I own an 02 4.8l. Yes, I imagine it is thirstier than the diesels however, it isnt too bad when you just take it easy on the right foot. We wanted the TI which only comes in the 4.8l semi-auto.

for example, we went to moreton a couple of months ago, did approx 160 klms and chewed 1/4 of a tank. obviously higher consumption as we were in 4high all weekend.

2 weekends ago, took it from Manly (Qld) to Crystal Creek (murwillumbah) which the trip was about 120k each way. out there, played around in the mud saturday and sunday doing mostly slippery hill climbs so needing some revs. we only chewed just over 1/2 a tank.

I think it is a preference thing. As far as i am concerned, i wanted the grunt and quietness of a petrol (and the need not to change oil ever 5000k). ours rides like a sedan but much quieter on the black stuff and still performs very well offroad. plus, if you are after petrol, get the TI (all the niceties for around town and the factory locker in the rear for offroad ;-)

to further add - it has a 95l tank and a 45l subby, factory fitted.

cheers
Tom

You guys should drive one of the new breed diesels...
4.8 patrol 0-100 9.9 seconds
3.0 jeep Crd DEISEL 0-100 9 seconds plus half the fuel.

Yeah, but it's a Jeep......Serious 4wd's only.......VTIC

Damn that counts the patrol out

Stu-k,

Mate, Jeeps only have one use.......Filling pot holes......hehehe....Mate, Just joking........

"pootrol" hmm...

on the flipside -

"Land Loser"

all in good humor ;-) I hope!

Well Totota still have the sub tanks on the 100s and prado.............. I guess they must be breaking the emmision laws then??????????????

Hi Robin

Thanks for your imput mate.

Is your 4.8 manual or auto?

Manual here Ingo57 , has its pluses and minuses.

The current model has the Euro spec engine with extra Oxy senors downstream of the Cat , which previous ones don't. Don't know for sure but think current slightly lower consumption.
Some good prices on these lately I notice.

Gas is for those who worry about fuel cost , but in reality fuel is only 20% of cost of running a near new car , and diesels are only 1/3rd of that 20% better, so its not a real issue provided you have the range.

Robin Miller

The nissan salesman Im dealing with reckons you can still get manual but maybe he hasnt kept up with his homework, will have to double check.

Totally agree the manuals can have pluses and minuses, but if you had the choice again which way would you go?

Do you do a lot of touring in it?

The salesman hasn't done his homework , manual 4800 is not listed on Nissan website anymore, maybe there is last years model at really good price though, be interesting to challenge him on this.

Yes do a lot of touring and 4wding here , most of the big trips to. Car gets around high 15lt/100km trips and 19lt in bush , doesn't change much. Auto does better on trips cause the engine revs are about 2100 at 100kmh whereas manual is 2600rpm.

I wanted a less complex car and manual has no auto transmission computer and also no abs sub system.
We also have an auto RAV4 and so I appreciate the ease of it around town.

Would buy manual again in this model because it large torque partly negates the auto's advantage in slow going , and while the auto will get to 100kmh slightly faster than manual due to fast gear change, the manual is a lot faster in overtaking
in say 80-110kmh where it stays in 3rd gear.
If I had to choose amongst the 3lt Patrols I would probably make a different choice
because of lack of engine torque.

Robin Miller

Robin, you say you've got the 145L main tank and the standard 36L sub. Is that main tank standard or aftermarket?

Nissan's website says 95L main tank - so have they dropped the sub tank (on the petrol only) and also reduced the size of the main?

Mine is an aftermarket ARB 145lt main tank , the standard main tank remains always 95lt.

After a lot of research I choose a bigger (but not the biggest which is 159lt) main tank over a bigger sub-tank because of clearance reasons - had I been thinking of a gas conversion soon I would have gone for bigger sub-tank about 70lt in petrol but some 80lt for diesel.

My mission was to give the car a 1000km range.

Robin Miller