cruise controll

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:01
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The new vehicle I am going to buy,has a option pack,cruise controll & abs brakes,I think I would like cruise,people with them whats your opinion.The price for options is not available yet ,so it will probably determine if i order it with option pack or not.
Friar
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:04

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:04
Hi Friar,

I wouldn't even consider a new vehicle without ABS brakes, just too much of a safety item to ignore and IMHO should be mandatory on new vehicles.

As for cruise control, I had it fitted to my GU and would not be without it, great for long distance cruising.

Cheers

Captain
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Reply By: _gmd_pps - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:09

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:09
The first car which had cruise control was in 1985 .. ever since my cars had cruise control .. so has my motorbike ... and the new truck too of course ...
It is a great thing .. you can avoid accidental speeding .. not on the lookout for multi novas all the time .. put the feet up on the long stretches .. a convenience I never would want to miss ... but then there are the muesli eaters and the real drivers .. rofl ..
good luck
gmd
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Follow Up By: strzelecki - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:55

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:55
I have a pommy vehicle built 1974 that has cruise control standard.
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:59

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:59
Would the electrics be Lucas by any chance??

He He
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Follow Up By: _gmd_pps - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 17:04

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 17:04
I was talking about my first one with cruise control .. not the first ones built ..

gmd
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:11

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:11
Pay the extra . ABS has saved my butt a couple of times in the wet and cruise control is fantastic on the long boring stretches of road like the Nullabor and Barkly Hwy and freeways .
Willie
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Reply By: Alan H (Narangba QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:29

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:29
Cruise control is very helpful for keeping to speed limit and I'd suggest gives better economy due to consistent driving.

It is also great to allow leg movement to prevent driver fatigue.

BUT IT IS DOWNRIGHT DANGEROUS IF DRIVER IS THE LEAST BIT SLEEPY. VERY EASY TO DRIFT OFF AND THE VEHICLE KEEPS TRAVELLING AT SPEED.

I have it work vehicles and definately want it in next vehicle I get.
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:50

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:50
If the driver is drowsy, it isn't the cruise that is dangerous.

It is equally easy to drowse off and keep travelling at speed WITHOUT cruise control.

Therefore cruise control is NOT dangerous.
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Follow Up By: Big Woody - Thursday, Nov 09, 2006 at 04:01

Thursday, Nov 09, 2006 at 04:01
Actually Gerhard I have a funny story that supports what Alan is saying. I do agree also that it is only the driver that is the dangerous bit in the equation.

When my brother & I were young we flew to Los Angeles and brought an old Ford V8 station wagon (Ford Galaxy I think) from the first car yard we saw when we walked out of the airport. We brought it for $600 and over the next 3 months drove over 20,000 miles around the USA, sleeping in the wagon for the entire trip and came back to the same airport and sold it for $800 at the front door to some tourists then jumped on the plane and flew home.
As you can imagine we did some big runs and fatigue was an issue at times. When we were driving across the Arizona Desert I was dozing off to sleep in the passenger seat and my brother was driving at about 2am. That is the last thing we can remember.
At about 6:30am we awoke to a cop tapping on the glass of the drivers door. The sun was up, the engine was still running,the headlights were on, the car was in drive and we were stopped right in the middle of the highway with the white centre line running exactly under he middle of the car.
As it turns out my brother fell asleep on a section that had a slight uphill gradient. As he fell asleep he must have lifted his foot off the accelerator and because we were going uphill the car gradually slowed to the point where it had stopped with the auto transmission just holding it stationary on the rise.
We don't know how long we had been there or how many cars/trucks had driven around us but it felt like the sort of thing you see in a weird movie. Our best guess is that we were parked there for over 3 hours.
I guess that in this case cruise control would have seen us plough off the side of the highway somewhere at full speed.

In saying this I have just fitted cruise control to my 80 series and I love it on the long trips. Alan I would go ahead and fit it to your current 80 series now. It only cost me $165 for the AP-50 kit and about 3 hours to fit it. As the 80 is constant 4wd I have fitted the sensor to the front drive shaft and the set up works great. We have a brand new Commodore at work and the C/C that I have just fitted is smoother and holds it's speed better than the factory C/C on the Commodore. Actually the C/C on the Commodore would see you cop a fine as it regulary goes up to 4 or 5 km/h over the speed you have set it at. The landcruiser only seems to vary 1km/h above or below the set speed.

Cheers,
Brett
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Reply By: Tia Maria - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:45

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:45
Hi Friar,

Let'smake it unanimous. Borow the extra cash if you have to. ABS wouldn't be without and once you have used cruise control you will be sold.
What vehicle are you getting? Whatever, enjoy.

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Reply By: Gerhardp1 - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:57

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 16:57
If it's not unanimous already, add my vote.

It's a brilliant and necessary addition to any vehicle.

I didn't like it in small revvy 4 cyl cars I've had, because the cruise tends to apply too much throttle correction over undulating country resulting in seasickness.

In a 6 cyl or more, it's great. The computer can and does make hundreds of adjustments per second to throttle position and ignition timing which usually results in better fuel economy than with the foot control. With the 6 or 8 you don't get the surging that you get in a small vehicle.

I haven't driven a small 4cyl diesel such as a Golf but I imagine they would not be as bad as a 4cyl petrol, and be as good as the 6 or 8.

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Reply By: joc45 - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 17:11

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 17:11
A cruise control is not only great on the long stretches of road, but is less tiring on the driver in my experience.
Gerry
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Reply By: Zig-n-Zag - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 17:18

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 17:18
A very definite yes to the cruise control function as I prefer to watch the road for roos, echidnas, wombats etc than the speedo and woory about the hairdryers/multi coloured christmas light carrying boys in blue/brown or whatever colour they wear in your state.
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 17:43

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 17:43
ABS may be worth it.

Not so sure about the cruise control.
Only use it ocassionally if it is very flat.
Bumps up the fuel consumption by 5 to 10% for me.
I tend to drive on a steady throttle and back off before the tops of hills.
Find cruise control is applying throttle on a slight rise, and does not back off until over the hill.

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Reply By: RupertDog - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 19:40

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 19:40
Friar

Definately find the $$ for Cruise Control!

Has saved me a fistful of $$ over the years (and probably my licence?). Definately worth the money, especially in WA where they are happy to fine you for about 5kms over the limit. Very easy to do when the lines on the speedo are about twice the width of the needle.

If you get ABS, I would suggest you find a quiet side street somewhere, make sure no one is behind you and slam the brakes on. ABS pulsing is quite freaky first few times. Test the ABS and get used to the feeling where it is safe, rather than where you need it!

Also, ABS and Cruise Control tend to help resale.

Just a few thoughts!

RD
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Thursday, Nov 09, 2006 at 08:47

Thursday, Nov 09, 2006 at 08:47
Just a note of caution - brakes have to be "run in" on most vehicles, and doing a brake slam test as suggested will possibly ruin your brakes.

This applies to new cars and reconditioned brakes, eg new pads and disk machining.
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Reply By: friar - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 21:32

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 21:32
Thanks for all the replys ,looks like the budget might have to be stretched a little further,the vehicle is a new GX Prado turbo common rail diesel auto.
Friar
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 22:40

Wednesday, Nov 08, 2006 at 22:40
Hi there friar, you will probably find that these options are together meaning you cant get one with out the other which was common back when I worked for toyota. Toyota use to be bad cause if you wanted the extras like cruise and stuff you normally use to have to buy the next model up to get it as it wasnt an option you could get seperatly (unless it was an after market item like cruise control) Glad to see they have changed that. Go for both you wont regret it one bit. As mentioned above if you do have the choice between the two I would go the ABS if your budget doesnt extend enough for the cruise as well. If they are both an option you should be able to get the cruise fitted at a later date when you can afford it. ABS could save your life hopefully you wont ever have to worry about it. As said above try the abs out in a back street some where. When I worked for the smash repairs we use to have a lot of people say the pedal started to pulsate so they took there foot off the brake and bang into the car infront of them, it scared them. Same as any emergency situation, nail your foot on the brake as hard as you can and hold it there, this will allow the abs to do its job and hopefully avoid what your braking for plus still give you steering control with out locking up. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: Barnesy - Thursday, Nov 09, 2006 at 00:40

Thursday, Nov 09, 2006 at 00:40
Cruise control if great, get it.

ABS is better on bitumen, especially with fat 4wd tyres in the wet.

But something to think about, i think that on loose low range descents (on gravel etc) then ABS is worse because any slippage and the brakes release. The slippage may be caused by the gravel and would be expected on the surface. With normal brakes the driver can back off or apply heavier if needed but the machine doesn't know that. The result is the ABS hardly ever grips at all and doesn't slow you down.

If I'm wrong then anyone feel free to correct me.

Barnesy
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Reply By: Muzzgit [WA] - Thursday, Nov 09, 2006 at 02:07

Thursday, Nov 09, 2006 at 02:07
Yes, on VERY steep stuff, ABS can be a bugger, but it's no biggie to remove the fuse if you need to.

On gravel? Its like ABS on bitumen, the first time you experience it it can be scary, and the same on gravel or hard sand. Once you know what it's all about, ABS is great, and still gives you control of streering, which is the big issue when your caught out going too fast, hit the brakes and need to steer.
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Thursday, Nov 09, 2006 at 08:23

Thursday, Nov 09, 2006 at 08:23
I have had aftermarket cruise controllers on my last 2 vehicles,,
My latest is on my 2003 Navara ,,,, its a Command AP 500 model , and its simply brilliant
Has a wireless activator, which I had mounted on the steering wheel, 4:00 o'clock position and the reciever module is mounted on the dash, directly behind the hand control ( wheels pointing straight )

They are presice and hardly vary at all, once they are set ,,
All you need to do, is allow 2-3 times the slow down distance when gaining on another vehicle, and drop the setting 5-10 km on undulating & sweeping hills

Cheers Bucky
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Reply By: Kumunara (NT) - Thursday, Nov 09, 2006 at 11:44

Thursday, Nov 09, 2006 at 11:44
My patrol has a pack where you get air bag for the front passenger and driver and ABS brakes. Essential options for safety,

It also has cruise control. I may be getting a bit old and lazy but I love it. I find that as I do not have to concentrate on what speed I am doing I do not become as fatigued on long trips. I also have some problems with my right knee and not having to have my foot on the accelerator all the time adds to my comfort.

Get the option pack with cruise control and ABS. You will regret it if you don't.
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