Tough Dog Adjustable - Opinions
Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 17:04
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I'm thinking about fitting adjustable shocks to my V8 LC100. I tow a large boat (3000kg) and thought it may be a benifit to adjust the rear shocks depending on whether I'm towing or not. I have ruled out koni as they only adjust for rebound and from what I read here have also ruled out Rancho.
Any opinions on Tough Dog adjustables? Previously had OME on a TD LC100 and did about 100 000km with out any problems. I carried over the OME rear springs from the old vehicle.
Cheers,
Topend.
Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 17:07
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 17:07
If you were happy with the OME why change. if they worked before, stick with em.
having had adjustable shocks, they are good offroad, but they dont last.
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 17:47
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 17:47
Have not tried Tough Dog.
Have tried the rancho 9000, but found the adjustment increases bump and rebound, and the first 2 or 3 settings are way too soft.
On the highest setting, way too stiff on bump but Ok on rebound.
Have gone to Konis, and are happy with them only adjusting rebound. Only hassle is the ones I have you need to take them off to adjust them.
Did use Gabriel adjustables many years ago, as
well as Spax, and found those good on road cars.
Found airbags and heavier springs in the rear help with towing. After all, the shocks really should be only controlling the spring.
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Reply By: Middle Jeff - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 20:09
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 20:09
Hi Topend
I fitted a set to my 80s two years ago and they are great, I also have air bags in the coils and both are adjustable from inside on the fly.
If you try to use the shocks by themselves to correct a
suspension setup it will kill them,
mine are as good as the day I had them fitted and have done over 20,000 heavy touring and hard playing.
When I play on the weekends I take my sway bars off and set them on 9 and it drives flat and I have a 5" lift, but do not fit them if you are not going to put the incab kit in as the novelty wears off real quick and you end up leaving them set on 4.
Have fun
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Reply By: Crackles - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 20:54
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 20:54
When they are working they are great but the reliability can often be poor when given a pounding on outback corrugations. They would be a slight improvement over an OME but wouldn't (IMHO) perform as
well as a Bilstein or last as long as a Koni. A bit over priced for what they are.
Tough Dog????? More of a Poodle than a Rottweiler ;-)
Cheers Craig............
HZJ105 Vic
Koni / Lovells
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Reply By: junior - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 20:59
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 20:59
Hi Topend- I have had a full tough-dog setup on my GU TD42T now for 2yrs/ 30,000kms (4 inch lift) and have not had a problem. Truck handles great on-road (usually have shocks on 8) and offroad many passengers have remarked- "this is the softest off-road ride I've ever had"... and I drive hard (usually run at about 4-5 offroad with washouts and about 3 on badly corrugated roads). PS- the comment about the in-cab kit is spot on- you quickly get sick of getting covered in mud each time you go under a guard to change the dials- the in-cab kit rocks!
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 22:02
Tuesday, Nov 14, 2006 at 22:02
Having just read through the replies to date, I find it strange that nobody has asked (or commented) about the fact that Tough Dog make 2 VERY different adjustable shocks. The "ordinary" ones are about the same size as a OME or Koni. The ones I'd be fitting (if I decide to go that way) are the ones they call their "BIG-
BORE ADJUSTABLES". These are $275- each (compared to the normal adjustables @ around $198- as far as I know). The Big
Bore units are VERY BIG with a 70mm outer case and a 45mm piston diameter.
Sooooo, which ones is everybody talking about? I get the impression that those who are saying they are not all-that-flash are probably referring to the smaller ones. I'd be surprised if anybody who is using the big suckers is experiencing any issues...... Could I ask all those who have responded to date, to please clarify which style you are referring to please??
Cheers
Roachie
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Follow Up By: junior - Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 00:54
Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 00:54
mine are the big suckers- all good
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Follow Up By: Trekkie (Member - WA) - Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 01:10
Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 01:10
Yeah Roachie the Tough Dogs I had some time ago turned out to be Soft Pussies. I might try the big ones one day, but maybe not.
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Follow Up By: Middle Jeff - Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 04:44
Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 04:44
Hi again
The big
bore, I havn't heard of anyone breaking these, one a recent trip to the Cape everyone elses shocks went to mush ( and that covered just about everything including Bilstine ) after about an hour but not
mine.
Also my CD player never skips a beat!
Have fun.
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Reply By: banjodog - Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 06:36
Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 06:36
Tough Dog big
bore or change
the springs to heavry ones and use the Ralph shocks.
But take note as to what's already been said, don't rely just on the shocks to do all the work - you may need to change the rear springs to carry the 3000kg boat - otherwise there will be too much strain on the shock mounts trying to hold up the boat weight.
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Follow Up By: Topend - Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 12:55
Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 12:55
It not about the shocks taking the heavy load in my case as the OME springs do that. It's more about softening the back when the boat isn't on. I would like to adjust for a soft ride, not that it's too bad anyway.
I am going to see how it goes without changing the shocks first. Just keeping this up my sleeve.
Thanks for the replies.
Topend.
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Reply By: viz - Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 22:22
Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 22:22
I have a similar problem withi my LC100 - I carry a variety of loads and if I set the
suspension up for a heavy load I get pummeled when there is no load in the back. Adjustable shocks by themselves will not solve the whole issue - you have to look at
the springs too, and the only solution that I can see is that there is some sort of airbag either within the spring or a spring replacement airbag setup - which is what I am doing at the moment (with Tough Dog shocks). Get some advicce from a spring expert (Lovells in
Sydney is who I am using) .
Shockies by themselves will not solve the varyng weight issues...
/viz
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