LOKKA and LR Tank fitted!

The only negative talk I've seen were from others that have never had them, they prefer the air lockers because they are 4 times the price and they do give more trouble than the lokka.
My 2 cents worth :-)

Phil, yes mine is a TD. All the talk is good at this stage, no negatives that I've heard of (except price).

I agree, much prefer to have front locked than back for control reasons (not that I've ever had one locked at the back) but makes sense to be able to steer with the axle that is locked.

Slammin, I assume you're asking about the spare tyre - mine is fitted to the rear door so no problems there. I didn't notice the steering at all. As for high speeds, not likely to be doing those sort of speeds. Also do very little rock work, and when I do I plan on idling the very torquey engine over the rocks, not thrashing it. If I cant get over that way I'll try a different route. Thanks for your reply

Damien

Oh, and by the way, no mention of not recommending driving at high speed in 4wd (although I probably won't do over 80 anyway) Ph 4wd systems and see what they say.

Hi djm67,

Aren't you/haven't you been tempted to get a good LSD for the rear? If so just wondering why you would choose a lokka.

I have been thinking it over for my Hilux and have come to the conclusion (unless shown otherwise) that the onroad ability of LSD -being less aggressive than the Lokka would have made it the choice over a Lokka in the rear.

Regards,

Slammin.

Rodeos (and Jackaroos) have a pretty decent LSD so it hasn't been an issue.

Landcruisers have a crap LSD so I am going for two, would cost me almost as much to rebuild the OEM LSD and get it working properly as it is to get a LOKKA.

Not sure what the Hilux LSD is like (do they have one?)

Geeze djm, you're picking a sore issue for hilux owners. Yep LSD standard........(standard to last 80,000k's!!). It's a good LSD for the period that it works.........then zippo.

It was the LSD wearing out that gave me the motivation to Lokka the front.

It's slightly cheaper to get an aftermarket LSD in the rear than a Lokka and I was told the driveability on road of the lokka left a lot to be desired. The main reason was increased tyre wear and also because of the fact that it's constantly locked, and then unlocked on turning and then instantly fully locked again at the end of the turn meant that it can grab the wheel that's not engaged causing a jerking effect.

At the absolutely worst case scenario in the wet with a heavy foot going around a corner this could result in a momentary loss of steering as the rear pushes the front forward. That's why I was advised by many people to get the Lokka in the front so I can then choose wether it's engaged or not together with the advantage (in a ute especially) of having the heaviest part of the car being pulled over or thru obstacles. As opposed to the rear trying to find traction and pushing the nose in. I was also advised to let the LSD wear out then look at choosing an aftermarket LSD.

I'm definately no expert and I did get conflicting reports from different distributors when I was researching, even amongst the same franchises. FWIW I found the best calls I made were to TJM in Cairns. I called lotsa people from around the country those that sell Lokkas, different brands of Lokkas and different franchises of the Air Lokka mob as well. I also called a few diff specialists who don't sell Lokkas or Air Lokkas.

I also would of thought that high speeds could of caused problems at the actual locking pin (stud) for that reason as well - snap. Hence why I was told not to use 4wd at speed.

What advice have you been given? Anything about the Lokka at speed? I'd like to use 4wd Hi.

Cheers Slammin.

I too have been down the path of a 100 bits of conflicting advice, here is what I gleaned that I think is relevant.......

I KNOW air (pneumatic) lockers work great, have used them in the Army (Unimogs)

I was TOLD that the lokka causes the LEAST drivability problems when put in the rear, given the relatively small differences in distances travelled by the rear wheels (as oppossed to the large difference in distance travelled by front wheels in a turn), this of course has its limitations i.e your wet slippery bitumen and too much power scenario.

I have been TOLD that the ultimate setup would be lokka in the rear, air operated in the front so you can turn it off to steer in tight situations.

I KNOW that the lokka in the front of my Rodeo makes the steering a little heavier and makes it return to centre more quickly, but it is not hard to steer, even in soft sand.

I KNOW that the lokka gives me heaps more traction even if it is just avoiding wheelspin when crawling up slippery gravel forest roads, especially good given that it is a torsion bar front end.

I KOW the lokka can be bought, fitted and all the diff/wheel bearings & seals & uni joints can be replaced for the same cost as an air operated unit. That is a winning factor for me given that I have a few km's on the 4WD.

DJ

Hi Dj.

Cheers, V. interesting.

Ditto the rebuild $'s.

From your reply, I take it there isn't an issue with 4wd Hi?

Regards,

Slammin.

Have not found any issues, have engaged 4WD up to about 60km/h without issue.

But remember that since the hubs are locked in 4WD, then everything inside the front diff is already spinning at the right rate to begin with.

It isn't like you are tring to slam a staionary pin into a spinning hole.

Hi gbc did you receive any warnings about using 4wd Hi? (See my reply above.)

My LSD has completely gone and I haven't really needed it since. The Lokka has been so effective I don't really see the point in parting with the readies.

Have you done anything in the rear?

Cheers,

Slammin.