New Hilux 3.0 TD

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 11:26
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A workmate has a problem with his 2005 3.0TD Hilux that Toyota can't solve, while returning home from a weekend of 4WDing, on the freeway at 110kph the car died, the engine management light came on and no power.

So he pulled up got out had a look couldn't see anything fallen off, so looked in the manual for help.

The manual explains the reset thing, so he did the reset and it went again, but 5 min down the road same thing the car stopped.

After getting the car home it was off to Toyota, after a full day at Toyota and finding a fault code, they claim they don't know what the error code is and of course can't fix it.

Has anyone had or heard of this problem

Baz.
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Reply By: downtools - Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 12:15

Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 12:15
It can happen to anyone and is prolly just bad luck.
A Hilux used to be a tough depandable, go anywhere truck but with all the electronic wissbangery these days, you just never know.
Lucky it didn't happen out in the sticks!
A good arguement for Keeping It Simple.
See ya
Nifty
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Reply By: Member - RockyOne - Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 12:16

Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 12:16
Hugh! I get scared when talking "black boxes". I like to treat them like "Wills"..Just know they are there and hope no-one has to look at it..Some clever guys on these forums,present company excluded,so,no doubt a positive answer is forthcoming..Probably turn out to be a simple thing like bad crimp/connection..Computors can't hack (no pun intended) that sit. BOL RockyOne
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Reply By: foxtel - Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 23:15

Wednesday, Nov 15, 2006 at 23:15
Had the similar problem with Explorer when I took to a dealer. Told by workshop supervisor that no error came up on the computer so couldn't fix problem.

Did your workmate know if the dealer swap the computer ?

My jetski's CDI unit was faulty and that is how the mechanic found out.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 00:10

Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 00:10
Hmmm, sounds like they had the apprentice working on it. Even a 15 year old ECU would have stored a fault code for somthing like that in it's memory and these new ones would be far more advanced. It would have to be a pretty sevre error code to make the engine die. Possibly a crank shaft sensor. Commodores commonly just stopped dead because of them. Normally you can crank them up again and they will run for a while longer, normally if you persist you should be able to drive it to wherever you need to get to.

There's probably not much info on the net about these motors yet, with the 1kz-te motor (the previous 3.0L TD in the hilux/prado/surf) there are self diagnosis and error codes all over the net. It's a simple matter of using a paper clip in the daig connector and counting the flashes on the dash to get the error code out. Not sure if those D4D's are the same though... Most likley just a dicky sensor, just a matter of tacking down which one and replacing it, it really shouldn't be a drama for Toyota. Maybe he should try a different dealer....
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Follow Up By: Redback - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 09:40

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 09:40
Well i have an update on his hilux, it dies mostly when he puts the boot in and when doing high speeds (freeway stuff)
now this is the strange part, if he uses the cruise control it doesn't happen, apparently this is how he got the car home.

Now Stewarts Toyota have basicly said they couldn't find anything wrong, with the car and now he's on his own.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:20

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:20
Well if I were him I'd be writing a formal complaint to Toyota head office regarding Stewarts Toyota and approaching another dealer. Pig's ass he's "on his own", the car is still under warranty and it' broken. Pretty simple, I wouldn't be putting up with such nonsense.
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Reply By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 04:14

Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 04:14
Baz !
I have heard that occasionally, some newer cars will not work close to Telstra towers.
Owners are ammazed when dragged 100 mts away,, the car will give a faultless run fro then on, till they park up near those towers again ,,,,

Strange things
Some do Some Dont !
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 10:17

Thursday, Nov 16, 2006 at 10:17
Are you speaking of mobile phone towers or network towers... Either way I feel this may be an urban legend due to a couple of reasons:

1. Mobile phone towers are not anywhere near powerful enough to interfere with electronics. There would be no point in having a 500w tower when the phones are not even 1 10th that power. Even 500w would be struggling to interfere with the electronics in an ECU even if the car was magically lifted up so that it was sitting next to the tower, which brings me to my second point.

2. If you are parked next to a tower, you probally have less interference then if you were 100metres down the road as you would be in the antenna's shadow. It's 50m in the air, transmitting OVER your head. Hence why you cannot get signal somtimes when you are standing right underneath a tower. (had that problem with my CDMA at the school I was doing my prac at this year, the antenna was in the car park (was quite a tall one as it has heaps of other gear on it as it is the peak of one of the highest hills in Perth) but because of this I had terrible reception in the school, some classrooms I couldn't even get coverage!

I've also heard the other story about imobilisers and alarms not disarming when you are outside automatic doors.... How infra red light interferes with UHF radio reception, buggered if I can work it out...

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