Does this mean that most diesel powered vehicles will be slugged??

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Reply By: robak (QLD) - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:17

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:17
I doubt it. Diesel cars fall under different emision standards.

I was once pulled over by the DOT for emission testing. When they saw it was a diesel they said ..."off you go and have a good day sir."
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:41

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:41
"The committee, chaired by Liberal Robyn Parker, urges incentives to encourage more fuel-efficient vehicles, hybrids and alternative fuels."

brilliant - hit those that cant afford a new $50k car with more debt and taxes.. How far away from reality are these bleep in pollys?
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 17:35

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 17:35
haha, yeah that reminds me of the interview one of the "chasers" did with Philip Ruddock about Austin Powers. He thought he was talking about a real spy and got all deffensive saying that you should publicly name spys! What a bleep , it just shows they have NFI about what goes on in the real world...
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 17:36

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 17:36
Oops I mean NOT name spys...
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 02:34

Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 02:34
Come on poor people should not be driving expensive vehicles anyways
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Reply By: Member - John R (NSW) - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 11:26

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 11:26
The photo looked like a petrol L300. The 4G64 always puffs away like that before it explodes :-)
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 17:37

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 17:37
Yeah I was going to say, Mitsubishi would LOVE that photo! :-)

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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 12:42

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 12:42
Interesting, since most modern petrol cars with catalytic converters won't meet emission standards when idling I have been told.
The catalytic convertor needs to be at min temp, such as 400deg C, (some one will correct me here), which does not occur while idling.
So much for all of the concepts behind lead free petrol and less pollution.
Only really good way to get less pollution is to turn off the engine.

So how do you test a Prius for pollution if the engine turns off at idle?
It could be really out of tune, and no one is going to pick it up.
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Follow Up By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 15:35

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 15:35
If you turn the aircon on high in a Prius the engine never turns off <;-)
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Reply By: Bilbo - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 14:08

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 14:08
I would agree with that Plodder. Cat converters are platinum based technology that carry out a chemical conversion of gases and liquids. But platinum, based conversion is almost non-existent without some from of heat.

This emission standards and any proposed tarrif has always perplexed me. Say one of us drives vehicle that meets a certain emission standard and you use it every day - to and from work shopping, pick the kids up etc. And you do about 30,000 kms a year in it. And it spends a lot of its time idling in traffic. That's one set of emissions, as no engine gives out ZERO emmissions.

But say I have car that sits on my driveway for 3 weeks at a time, but doesn't meet the emission standards, and does only 10,000 kms a year.That 10,000 kms is mostly high speed road work. That's another set of figures. Which car contaminates the atmosphere more? Yours or mine?

So why should I pay any more than you?

Purely hypothetical, but food for thought.

Bilbo
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 17:00

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 17:00
As you can tell, I read something similar a while ago.
It got me thinking about my two pre 86 cars.
If they are now running on ULP without a CAT, because of the benzine and other volatiles added to make up for the lead, they are most probably producing more noxious emissions than they were on leaded petrol.
Saw a graph the other day on general lead levels in the human body in Europe. Have been dropping for over 40 years, ever since people stopped using lead pipes for water and eating off pewter plates.
That then got me checking to see when post 86 engines actually have the CAT working. Not that often on traffic it seems. CAT doesn't get hot enough. And city use is where that pollution correcting gear is needed the most.
I think the pollies forgot to do their research before they leglislated on ULP.
Another case of just listening to the green lobby without checking the science.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 17:40

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 17:40
Not to mention that any car over about 5 years might as well not have a CAT anyway as it's probably completlely worn out and usless.

Oh well if they Test diesel vehilce, just fill up with B100 before you go for the test! :-)

You'll pass with even the crappiest of engines then!
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 18:23

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 18:23
Jeffery my boy, what a simply splendid idea!! I doffs me hat to you sirrah!

That should keep me V8 Nissan on the road well into 2025!!

Bilbo
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 18:39

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 18:39
And if you fit a particulate filter into the exaust you'd almost beat a prius on emissions! ;-)
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 21:28

Friday, Nov 17, 2006 at 21:28
So many departments, to control a issue as big as this!!.

Asthma foundation.

Chief executive Greg Smith, states extra fine particles from the latest engines are a great concern. WTF now ?? electronics are obvisouly going to improve fuel econemy, less smoke out the pipe, but where is this going to stop?
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