Changing disc pads on GU Patrol

Submitted: Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 10:46
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Looking for advice about pulling the front disc pads out of the GU Pootrol.

I am seeking to see if the disc pad compound is designated EE or FF, so I need to pull the pads out. Trouble is, I am not sure on how to release the pads once the wheel is off.

I assume it is reasonably simple - just don't know where to start.

As the vehicle is very heavy (3.2 t loaded) it take some stopping. GU's are notorious for having a spongy pedal. The vehicle does stop, but I am looking for better braking performance.

I have it on top authority that I should be using FF pads - high friction at cold temps & high temps, Vs EE pads, which provide 'normal' performance.

Thanks
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Reply By: donks1 - Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 11:39

Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 11:39
my advise is simple..

if you don't know what you are doing, don't play with brakes

i don't want you behind me in traffic with 3.2 tonne and no way of stopping

take it to a pro
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Reply By: handy - Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 13:00

Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 13:00
rick get your self a manual and go thru it . there is not much to it and is a fairly straight forward job.
once you have done it you will wonder what all the fuss is about and save your self a bit of coin as well. cheers
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 13:41

Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 13:41
basically using a brain a person could follow these steps.

jack up and car stands under car.
remove wheel
undo caliper and remove
stick large tool in there and push against the pads to push the piston in.
remove old pads.
put new pads in
put caliper back on tighten up
wheel back on
remove car stands
tension up nuts
drive away.
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Reply By: Exploder - Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 14:48

Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 14:48
A set of stainless steel Braded brake lines would help with brake Pro-Formance, not cheep but

I would just add that a G Clamp of suitable size is the best for pushing the piston back into the calliper

Cheers
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Reply By: Bilbo - Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 19:09

Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 19:09
Truckster, Exlpoder and of course Rick himself,

You only forgt one thing. When trying to push back the caliper pistons it's a lot easier to crack open the bleed nipple. That way the brake fluid that's displaced by the piston has somewhere to go. i.e the atmosphere.

Otherwise you could be screwing that G clamp until it screws it way out the back of the piston! ;)

Make sure that as soon as (i.e immediately) the piston is fully retracted ie.pushed back, that you close the bleed nipple. Otherwise you'll get air in and have to bleed the brakes.

If you do it like this you won't need a G clamp. Just a big screwdriver will suffice. If the piston is hollow, just put a socket in it and use the screwdriver to push on that. Make sure the piston is INDEED ALL THe WAY BACK. It only needs to stick out a midges pubic hair to stop you from replacing the caliper without struggling. With new pads there's not much slack.

PS - with some cars you don't need to take the caliper off. I don't know about the GU as I've never had to do mine yet.

Bilbo
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 20:13

Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 20:13
Well yes, that would be doing it the easy way wouldn’t it.

Funny thing is I have never done it like that, have always just taken the cap off the brake fluid reservoir and grabbed the trusty G Clamp, work harder not smarter LOL
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 19:41

Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 19:41
Rick,
It should be simple. But you won't need to use G-clamps as others have suggested - this is only of you are fitting new pads, and need to push the piston all the way back. I'm not sure exactly what type your GU has, but it usually either two bolts behind the caliper which undo and it will swing out of the way - you can then take a pad out, and check the numbers. Others have pins over the top of the caliper that are clipped in.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 19:44

Saturday, Nov 18, 2006 at 19:44
And just to add, the Bendix 4wd pads will pull you up as good as any others.
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Follow Up By: Rick (S.A.) - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 12:32

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 12:32
Phil,
I had heard that on the grape vine, & Peter Young talked me out of it, based on his experiences.
Cheers
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Reply By: Robin - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 07:37

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 07:37
Rick - as per Bilbo , cracking the nipple to let out pressure is important.

If changing pads , a couple of other things.

As per other posts its 2 big bolts that come out to free caliper, but I only remove 1 first and swing caliper back , then you can apply pressure to seperate pads a bit whilst cracking the nipple. I make sure mine could be seperated and stay apart before remove the loose second bolt and take off caliper.

I have had problems with this before , and now use a brake pad seperator, while you can buy little devices to do this , I use a slower way.

I have a short bolt and 22mm nut which I put between the pads and adjust the nut to place constant pressure on the pads. Then I loosen the nipple and get little squirt of fluid out, then repeat.

The above process can be very effective in fully seperating the pads.

Often with new pads , they seem just to big to fit and the whole process can be a pain so allow a few hours.

Sometimes also the pads can just push apart be hand and whole job only takes a few minutes.

Couple of other points - as you remove caliper you need a block of wood or something to put it on at about same height as were it came off , this makes things much easier to work on.

Also , on pads are little metal clips at each end, and also metal backing plates , pay particular attention to how these clip on , as when putting new pads on these have to be in place, and unless they are put on square the will seem not to fit.

It all does work but takes care, patience and careful alignment and sometimes 3 hands.

As for actual pads I got cheapest soft ones about $40 for my GU and these provide better braking and less life, its ones with metal particles in them that last longest , and require more force to operate.

Mine lasted 100,000 kms

Robin Miller

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Reply By: Rick (S.A.) - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 12:32

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 12:32
Thanks all,

esp Bilbo, Robin & Phil.

You gave me the the starting point & next steps, which is what I lacked.

All OK now.

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Follow Up By: donks1 - Monday, Nov 20, 2006 at 20:52

Monday, Nov 20, 2006 at 20:52
please don't come to sydney any time soon
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Follow Up By: Rick (S.A.) - Monday, Nov 20, 2006 at 21:00

Monday, Nov 20, 2006 at 21:00
no risk if they are tossers like you
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Follow Up By: Rick (S.A.) - Monday, Nov 20, 2006 at 21:00

Monday, Nov 20, 2006 at 21:00
no risk if they are all tossers like you
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