PERTH 4WD SHOW 2006

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 01:43
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Im in a bind . I bought a Waeco frigde at the perth 4wd show last week.
Its not working on 12V,the error light just flashes and the instructiions dont have an answer.
Battery is fresh but I will try it on another new battery tomorrow as a last resort
On mains power it works great so I know the compressor works ok.
IMO its the mechanism that switches automatically from 12v to 240v.

Here is the problem .I cant find my receipt and I cant remember who sold me the firdge.
Im think it was either a dedicated Waeco stand or ORE. Whichever it was took my name and hopefully I can get a warranty claim in.

So can anyone remember who had the biggest Waeco stand at the show?
There was at 3-4 assistants selling them.
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Reply By: Member - Phillip S (WA) - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 02:19

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 02:19
Ross....you might try to contact the show organizers at www.4wdshow.com.au
a contact could be Amanda Spencer (show director) for a complete list of sellers etc.
Also did you get the free show magazine when you paid your entrance fee, inside was a map of the show layout which might help you remember where you were geographically when you bought the fridge and so this might help you and them who had that stand.
Otherwise try to contact the state rep for waeco.
I hope this helps...wish you success...regards Phil
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Follow Up By: ross - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 09:09

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 09:09
Thanks Phil that was my next plan of attack.
I found the exhibitors map and ORE were roughly where i bought it but I thought I overheard one of the sellers saying it was a Waeco stand.
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Reply By: Hopper51 - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 09:03

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 09:03
It sounds very much like you have too much of a voltage drop from the battery. The Waecos are very sensitive to this. Try hooking it in directly to the battery. The standard wiring on many 4x4s is quite inadequate.
Hopper_51
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Follow Up By: ross - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 09:18

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 09:18
The instruction manual says the same but I have already tried it direct to to the battery.
Its a new 700cca battery and glows the plugs in 3 seconds and spins the 1HZ diesel over like it has no compression(it does have plenty).

Last night I tried it one more time and the and it began to switch itself off very few seconds and cause a small fluro light drawing power from the same source to do the same.

I will try it on my other landcruiser and my volvo today and see what happens.
They both have big new batteries also
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Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 10:55

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 10:55
gday Ross - is the error light constantly flashing or flashing 3 times, then a pause, ten flashing 3times (etc etc). If this is the case, the power supply has been disconnected then reconected while the compressor was running. It doesn't tell you this in the manual. basically, if this is the case, it will return to normal after a few min. when the compressor looses its residual pressure

Waeco have generally been pretty good with the waranties, and if it is only a week old I'm sure they will be able to tell this and should come to the party anyway.

Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: blown4by - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 12:00

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 12:00
If the error light flashes every 5 seconds it is low voltage, either due to the battery, or volt drop. You need to measure the voltage with the fridge compressor running not just the 12v power supply turned on. What model fridge did you buy because I just did a trip up to Steep Point and mine did the same and when I contacted a Waeco authorised repairer he said a couple of the newer models inc my CF-60 have a problem with a 5 cent part that causes the error light to indicate low voltage when the voltage is actually OK. My fridge still stayed frozen while the light was flashing but on 240v the light stayed off. If you ring 9 209 3033 that is Waeco's Perth number and they will direct you to an authorised service outlet near you. Their technical advice line on the other side of the Darling Range is: 1800 212121. If you live down Rocko way the agent is: All-General Pty Ltd 2/8 Helmshaw Way Port Kennedy 9 524 6080. The service agents have a sheet which lists the fault types to match up with the error light flashing frequency which might be handy to copy and carry with you. I wouldn't worry about no receipt, I thought both the big Waeco displays near the South entrance were run by Waeco buyt in any event they will be able to tell from your serial number that it is not very old. Might be good to have some evidence of purchase date if it plays up again in 11 months time.
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Follow Up By: ross - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 13:12

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 13:12
Andrew and Blownby, Its flashing every 7 seconds or so but if I play around with it I can get it to work.
It all goes to pieces when I turn the engine on/off. Then I have to disconnect ,turn the fridge off and then reconnect and turn fridge on and it seems to work
Ive checked my battery and its 12.4 and 12.5 on each landcruiser and about 14.2 and 14.4 with the engine running.
There is no discernable current loss at the cig lighter,maybe 1/100 volt.

Thanks for those phone numbers, I will be onto it tomorrow.

I was supposed to be going away on tues and it will be real downer if I cant use it and have to go with eskys full of ice or a hire fridge.

I think it was a Waeco stall as I remember a salesman saying something about being/not being in competition with their own dealers.
The ORE stand must have been next door;)
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Reply By: Neil & Pauline - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 14:45

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 14:45
Make sure you have a heavier enough wire as voltage drop will cause the fridge not to work on 12 volt. Some models will stop the fridge leaving enough power to start your vehicle.
The compressor is 12 volt and the 240v is reduced to 12v not the other way around.
The cigarette lighter connections do lose a lot of voltage.

Neil
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Follow Up By: ross - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 16:35

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 16:35
Ive checked the cig lighter and there is next to nothing in current drop.
Ive also checked the current at the plug that fits into the fridge and are getting full power there too.
I am p[retty sure the fridge has a problem somewhere
This model will allow the battey to run down to as low as 10 v and cut off although that is adjustable.
My batteries have 12.5 all the way through the circuitry.Right now it is running directly off the battery with the engine off but if I disconnect it or start the vehicle I know it wont work without some prayers and swearing.

I also found my receipt hidden in the little pouches of my wallet(who put them there?: ).
For the record, the seller was Duncan 4x4 of Blackburne Vic ,maybe they have a deal allowing them to sell fridges for Waeco at shows around the country.

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Follow Up By: ross - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 16:37

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 16:37
Blownby ,it was a 50 litre new model.
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Follow Up By: V8 Troopie - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 23:40

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 23:40
Ross, perhaps you are confusing current (Amps) and voltage (Volts) but it is confusing what you wrote.

Current (Amps) in a circuit is constant throughout, you just CAN'T drop current. Whatever current floes out of the battery also flows at the far end through your fridge or what else is connected in the circuit.
What does differ in a circuit is the voltage that's measured at various points of the circuit.

I hope that clears that one up for you.

Klaus
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Follow Up By: ross - Monday, Nov 20, 2006 at 01:45

Monday, Nov 20, 2006 at 01:45
Delete current and insert voltage.
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Reply By: Patrol22 - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 17:22

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 17:22
Ross

Regardless who you bought it off Waeco will cover any warranty jobs. I've had nothing but good experiences with them. But......and it probably is a big but given your responses......everything is pointing to low voltage and I suspect that if you are plugging it into a cigarette lighter socket that will be the problem. While you will no doubt read 12 V + once you plug in and allow for the inevitable losses across the plug etc and the super small cross section wire most lighter sockets are wired with.....you are probably dropping below the cut out voltage. They are a great fridge....mine is now 6 years old and nary a problem.

Cheers
Pete
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Follow Up By: ross - Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 20:03

Sunday, Nov 19, 2006 at 20:03
Well Pete i am actually running it off the battery and still having problems even though the batteries are showing 12.5 v and 14.5 with the engine running.
If that aint enough voltage I dont know what is.

According to the manual it can shut off at 10 volts to save the battery so that would give it a fair margin for loss through resistance.
Anyway the cig lighter are showing over 14 volts with engine on measured at the female end of the cord supplied by Waeco.

Just to clarify it the problem ,it will not run off a cig lighter
It will run directly off the battery SOMETIMES
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Nullagine) - Monday, Nov 20, 2006 at 12:50

Monday, Nov 20, 2006 at 12:50
its got a problem - send it back thats what warranties are for
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Follow Up By: ross - Monday, Nov 20, 2006 at 13:34

Monday, Nov 20, 2006 at 13:34
I would have sent it back sooner but I didnt discover the problem till sat afternoon.

I spoke to them on the phone and they seem to recognise the problem straight away and they give me an addrss close by to drop it off
According to them its probably a part called the rectifier.
It seems ,as Blownby pointed out, its a common problem and the supply of parts is stretched and will take a week
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