Mud & Rocks Rover (on the Tube

I think the internet agrees, it posted me in stereo to reinforce the point...lol

Fair go there Blue .... they're not made by Toyota ...... ;-))

Cheers

Ainn't that a blessing for sure....;-))

My time in the Army says they may as well be made by Toyota Rosco... ;-)~ *Ducks for cover...lol*

Yep .. let me guess. Was that back when they ran the old Series 2 & 3 109's with the 6 cylinder donk. Snapped axles like carrots. A tad different from now.

But you're quite right .. Tojo's prefer diffs to axles .... ;-))

Cheers

What's a series 2...??? LOL, joking... Nope Rosco, 110 4x4's and 130 6x6's, axles made from old push bike spokes me thinks... ;-)~ I would hazard a guess at leaving 15-18 vehicles in the bush for recovery with snapped axles in a 12 month period. AND I was a reg in a "G" res unit so they were only in the bush every so often.

Of course it may have had more to do with most of the guy's in the unit being in the 17-25yo bracket... d:-))

As I type I've had a memory, we had a series 2 with a holden 6 in it. Damn thing was hellishly uncomfortable but never broke down and neither did the 2 40 series troopy's.

Ahhh the memory of mega hours with little pay and cheap beer... *tear rolls down cheek*

Hi Red back
Your post reminds me ,
I was returning from the Cape coved in mud & dents, sitting on 110 Klm very happy the way I was Travelling , Then I am passed by a double B as if I was standing still, & then over the Air Way ,Great to see you use your 4WD not a suburban Bus, Gee I felt Good so I took the old Girl out of second gear, but I still could not Catch him to thank him for his remarks.

Hahahahaha good one the guy in the vid is Buggarlugs from a couple of Landy forums, and is renowned for being an agressive driver offroad.

Go that Disco

Here's a bit of entertainment Compilation 1

All the gang

Compilation 2

Baz.

Keep up the good work Redback..see you at Gippsland with my new modifications.

cheers
Barn

Oooh, new mods, can't wait now, friday arvo.

Baz.

jesus mate , just a few haveing some fun in the dirt.....get a life

Hi Ken,
You must live somewhere pretty flat and dry I'm afraid. Yes, it could be Toolangi or Wombat for all I know (which I don't), but in some of these areas, if you actually know the terrain after rain it can be quite nasty. But I suppose you know that, and you have the perfect vechicle to do this without any damage to the track at all. What is it, do tell? The driver of this vehicle is a member of at least one 4x4 club. They certainly don't teach people to destroy tracks unncessarily.
I presume you will be voting for the Greens this Saturday in the VIC state election, confident in the fact that your Hyundai Getz is fairly environmentally friendly?
Chris

KEN. KEN. KEN. ripping the place up? WHAT RUBBISH.

Nature would do more damage in 1 night of wind and rain than these guys could do in a month!

I don't suppose that street out the front of your house had any environmental impact when it was put in?

I thought it was tops. Good driving skills coupled with a vehicle renowned for it's off road ability. And it's HIS car. HE can do what HE likes with it!

err................good driving skills?
looked like he just floored it and pointed the wheels in the general direction.
twice had the engine at about 5000 revs and sat there, not going anywhere.
i don't really care how he wants to treat his car, but good driving skills?

Cannon [and like minded others], your response, full of wild assumptions, does little to justify the behaviour shown or your opinion that this is an OK activity. Painting me as a Greens supporter may make you feel better but when you can't produce an decent arguement to support your view I suppose you have to resort to trying to placing me in a handy category that you hope will cast doubts on my opinions. Not sure how long you have been 4WDing and to some extent it is irrelevant; to my view that this sort of pointless driving cannot be justified today ! It was common practice years ago but 30 years ago there was only a handful of people involved. If you can't see the impact of the thousands of 4WD's around now would have with even 20% of them doing this you are simply in denial ! I don't have a perfect vehicle that causes no damage. I have a patrol which is quite capabale of following this bloke and doing as much or more damage as him if I chose to.
My point again is that it is just unnessary, he is not going anywhere or doing anything useful. I do not support the modification of tracks to almost 2WD standard, or the closure of tracks simply because a land manager says they are too dangerous. I'm all for having tough challenging tracks; but not simply to allow show offs with more money than sense can go out and do this pointless stuff.
Try sitting with land managers from any state and convincing them that this is a valid use of tracks and that it is sustainable.
You can long for the 'good old days' of open slather and no track closures if you have been around that long to remember those times but those days are gone.
The damage to tracks near Melb by day trippers out for 'fun' is putting at risk the sustainable use of the great touring routes in the High Country. I know which I would rather see continuing.
Ken

Ken you are probably right in a way, and are intitaled to your opinion and views, these tracks have been there for a long time are most likely old logging tracks cut by loogers when felling trees, and disguarded for various reasons maybe they found an easier way, only to be found by guys looking for a challenging track and over the years got more popular.
It sounds like your aware of these tracks and should know that there is always the easier option around, also there are times when exploring you do come across these tracks by accident while going to certain favorite spots and rather than turning around, you push on to see how their car goes, we have all done it no matter how enviromental you may think you are.

The knobs that we should all target are the ones that creat new tracks and do donuts in camping grounds and run over native animals and generally run through native bush where there aren;t tracks.

Always stay on the track and if you have traction aids turn them on to minimise track damage, this my view and maybe just maybe we will keep them for the future.

Baz.

ken do you ever get your patrol dirty ? or are you just a winger . as for you keeping up with this landy then put ya money where ya mouth is . if you know you can match this bloke in the landy you must have done a little dirt bashing yourself so would that not make you a hypocrite. lay off ...his truck..his money..his time..& could even be private property ....I SMELL TALL POPPY SYNDROME .......666toy

Well 666toy quite a spray but all I said was I, [or dozens of others no doubt] could follow him if I chose to. The important element you overlooked was the chosing bit. I know pretty well what my vehicle and I can do. Unlike this bloke, and many of his misguided supporters, I have no need to show off and present this sort of stuff as acceptable behaviour. Have a think about it, what did it achieve, what did it prove and why was he doing it? If this was necessary to get to say a fishing spot or hunting spot that at least is a reason for doing it. My bet is though, if this is how he drove on a trip taking in 3-4 few days in the bush he wouldn't be going very far.
He is quite entitled to treat his vehicle however he likes, he is entitled to treat HIS land however he likes, but in my view he is not entitled to treat the bush as he likes. This stuff just feeds the anti 4WD lobby as a responsible 4WDer I cannot justify it.
I can't be 100% certain it isn't private land but I'm pretty confident it is Toolangi, a bit of it on Glenburn Track. Possibly for your info this area is close to Melb, a popular training and hooning ground. It has suffered considerable damage over the past 5-6 years and much of it has been closed off as a result.

In all the feedback I have had from this post nobody has offered any justification for what the clip shows. As for tall poppy syndrome you need to realise that this phrase is used to describe someone who resents someone who has achieved high standards. You could not be further from reality if you think this clown has done anything people should look up to.

I suggest you sit back and have a serious think about how you could approach any state land manager and convince him or her, that what you wanted to do was go out and thrash around on someone else's land for no other reason than to show how tough you and your vehicle are and that it did not matter how much damage you did. Let me know how you go !
I can tell you it is hard yards convincing them to keep tracks open and available for people to access the interesting places we have here that require a 4WD, particularly when they see some much damage from this sort of pointless activity.
Finally the comment 'put ya money where ya mouth is' probably says it all for you. When you realise it isn't about some sort of contest you may get to appreciate how fortunate we are in Vic. to have still so much good 4WD country available. We haven't been able to keep it that way because these sorts of fools impressed Parks Vic with their driving skills that is for sure ! They just make it harder.
Ken

what did he achieve ? A....he had fun in the mud & fun is what its all about. you like to go on sedate trips that is your fun. he likes to rip it up that is his joy. if you think vic has some good 4x4 country you ought to go to W.A. SA & the N.T. This is not to say vic is ordinary but there is a lot of bureaucratic BS to wade through just for a weekends fun. I had a whale of a time on a west coast area fishing ,hunting & tackling a few dunes for a week & did not see a soul for 5 days . Guess what no bloody paper work needed. I was even shouted a slab of beer for terminating a very feral mob of dingos on a nearby property. Still i guess vic is better eh .It all depends on what you want to do i guess . Having served my country & lived in the bush most of my life I have seen many "responsible 4x4 drivers" do more damage in a day than this bloke would in a week in the bush. A "responsible" 4x4 owner closed a gate on a property he was allowed through. the result was me putting down 19 cattle due to them being to perished to walk to get them to water because the bloody gate was ment to be open!!. Well he was tracked down & his response was i was just being "responsible" go figure. We defiantly look at this on different sides of the coin but hey i guess that is why we live in a democracy (its a pity that some times it feels like a communist regime in some states)Every one has the right to have fun (within reason) That track he was on was well buggerd before he ever got there & i did not see him making new tracks or cutting down trees . I think you would be better off defending this bloke instead of putting him down. After all we all like to have fun in the mud just some of us do it a little faster.