Quad Bike's Is there a futcher in them here in Australia

Great for chasing pigs most places :))))

and wombats in se gippsland!!!

methinks this is a Troll.
check his screen name.
meow.

rick,

No troll here ?

wat is a troll please

since Thursday, November 23, 2006 at 20:46 it seems

a troll is a post put up to elicit either negative of copious amounts of responses, e.g. Nissans are crap! My toyota just pulled one out of a glacier....... etc

you would be surprised to know that they do indeed kill several people per year and injure many more..........children seem to be the main victims.

Up this way, there is at least one major accident with Quad bikes, predominantely involving kids on farms.

Whilst they are potentially dangerous items, they do have their uses and should not be considered "just for surf lifesavers". (in Qld at least) They are not road registered and cannot be used on any roads. To say that 99% of users have no regard for public safety is rather misleading, similar to saying 99% of 4wds owners are wreckless and are out there to destroy the environment.

By all means be vigilant in prosecuting their illegal usage, and possibly increase the safety standards of the bikes themselves, however don't think that they don't have a valid use.

Andrew

Hmmm V64runner. Same could be said about 4wds LOL

Great bit of gear, and have lots of uses on rural properties. Back when it used to rain, I carted 3 big opal miners back to their camp, through conditions that would have left a 4wd bogged in the first swamp.

BUT they are dangerous in the hands of an untrained/inexperienced individual, and are rapidly overtaking 2wd tractors as the principal cause of death in rural areas.

Tend to agree with the comment above, that it's easier to ride a 2 wheel bike in most circumstances, except in soft going.

Hooroo...

Talking about accidents on quads , I was on the back of one holding a .243 when we bounced over a big hole at slow speed . One leg went down to the ground and the driver then proceeded to accelerate up it . Couldn't get a shoe on for a month .

I think a lot of the accidents are when they tip over backwards on steep slopes .

Willie .

Re Andrews comment about quads not being road registerable.

In Qld, quads are able to be registered under a concessional category. This gives one 3rd party cover, and the ability to drive ALONG, or across roads legally, but not necessarily on the road surface.. There are heaps of other restrictions to do with this rego, but it is useful for registering graders, loaders etc, as well as farm bikes, that often need to negotiate/cross public roads.

On accidents again, one make of quad would tip over sideways, if driven in reverse while turning to one side. No doubt the maker would have rectified this fault on later models??

Hooroo...

Actually i said "not fully road registered" ;-) though thanks Bob for further clarifying the registration process. I didn't realise graders, loaders etc fitted into this category.....i always imagined them as having a normal license plate category.

Andrew

c mon mate we gotta give the kids somewhere to play . if they make it only licensed people can ride these things its not really fair . after all we all like a bit of fun in the sand & mud . if you take a 4wd there then it should apply for a bike or quad as well (off road stuff) don't forget Australia is a big place & everyone deserves a go in the sand & mud fair go for every one ....personally i ride bikes & love to 4wd & go tripping (& no i don't believe in being a Richard cranium when others might be in danger ) but i emphasize that EVERYONE deserves to enjoy themselves young & old. just my thoughts mate....666toy

I sometimes wonder how you'd go taking a quad through the dunes . . . simply because when you register them, you have to nominate the area in which they're gong to be used (ie what sections of public road you need to access/cross etc).

I would be very surprised if I could register a bike and nominate 'Canunda National Park' as an area for use (particularly as a primary producer!), so I suspect any quads floating around the dunes are not registered to be there.

Could be wrong though!!

It seems that you're using the same logic with this that a lot of people use to vilify 4WD's... "I once saw a d.ckhead in a 4WD so they should all be banned".

If every class of vehicle that I'd seen a d.ckhead operating was banned it'd be a long walk to get anywhere...

Having a bad day V6????

No MUZBRY, Iam having a wonderful day. Retirement was the best thing that ever happened. My life is no longer ruled by the clock, a company that tells you when to start work, what time you can go home , how much they will pay you . how long you can have time off for lunch, when you can go on leave and for how long. Now I can go where ever I like without having to grovel to some one in management about taking leave to go on holiday. if I want to go over seas to visit a different country for several months, I pack my suite case, make my travel plans and I`m gone . While the rest of you are slaving away for some company in a job you disslike and cant wait for the time to go home each day . Dread getting up on Monady morning to face the rat race once again. Thank God I no longer have anything like that to worry about. So again in answer to your question Am I having a bad day the answer is most certainly not !!

HMMMMM!

"Monstrosities" "Silly people"

So my 9+ year old on a 90cc 2wd quad under adult supervision has no right to ride his quad, just in case it bothers someone who may be having a bad day??

I'm being facetious Ozrover.

How does my post start off? It should give you a clue...

So, Sarcasm being the lowest form of humour, get off the ground. : )>

You & the yank farmer coming around for a beer this arvo or what??

LOL! Now how come you never told us you were on here? Sorry about the beer - I didn't see your post until this morning. You around today (Sunday)?

you raise some good points, come to think of it the only motobike deaths that I can recall in the west relate to the two wheeled variety.

but alas, as with all things fun there is a minority that taints the majority.

You sound like a good kid, with a great attitude- dont lose it!!

have fun and enjoy what you do

Mike W

The National Coroners Information System (NCIS) has identified as part of it's analysis of data provided by each State Coroners Office, several trends which are concern, one being Quad Bike accidents. From a report into the benefits of this system:

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The value of the NCIS as a hazard identification tool was demonstrated by the Victorian State Coroner in 2002, who used the NCIS to identify that over a period of a little more than 2 years, there had been at least 20 quad bike deaths across Australia (excluding Queensland). The results of this national search, prompted by the recent deaths of 2 Victorians after a quad bike accident, persuaded the coroner to hold a mention hearing to discuss the danger of quad bikes.

Warnings about the dangers of Quad Bikes have subsequently been issued by WorkCover, and studies of the injury rate for quad bikes in Victoria and nationwide are being considered. A joint inquest is also to be held in Victoria regarding some of the Quad Bike deaths.

That fact that these warnings were issued within a fortnight of the initial search request highlights the immediacy of the benefits that the NCIS can provide in terms of death and injury prevention.

In July 2004, an accredited TAFE training course was developed in Tasmania for farmers, who can now enrol in the 3-tiered program to increase awareness and safety concerning the use of Quad Bikes. To be provided by Stay Upright, figures from the NCIS helped build a case for the creation of this course when it identified 57 Quad Bike related deaths has occurred in Australia since July 2000.

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57 deaths between 2000 and 2004! WOW, i knew the statistics were several per year, however 10+ per annum seems to be quite a problem, considering the relatively low usage numbers.

I agree that they can be fun, and that they do have their uses, however after studying several quad bike accidents involving kids seriously injured up here, one wonders if there is something we can do to make them more safe for their enjoyment.

Andrew

It all comes down to common sense . what your saying is correct but people get killed coming off horses riding a pushbike or just out bushwalking it does not take a gov department to educate us. It is up to the individual who is being taught to observe the dangers of these machines . if the individual refuses to take heed then you take your life into your own hands . for example it is nearly impossible to ware a skid lid when sitting behind a mob of cattle or sheep putting along at 10kph in 40+ heat (i know i have tried it) but you are very unlikely to have a accident doing this . however if you are mustering then it is a must to wear a skid lid because your speed can & will be a lot higher & the terrain can change rapidly (eg hidden stumps , washouts etc ) this is only my opinion . as for kids rideing these rigs i do believe there needs to be parental guidance but no matter how hard you try they will eventually like to have a little "circle work" at some stage . we cant wrap them up in cotton wool but we can explain the dangers & the importance of wearing the correct rideing gear & the results of what will happen if they don't. i am not sure but i believe horses & motorbike's have killed far more than quads per capita .
i do believe in training but it still comes down to the individual at the end of the day as to weather the person takes heed or not. i personally believe they are no more dangerous than a motor bike when proper safety gear is worn & a little common sense comes into play....not wanting to get into a argument with you just trying to put to you another point of view. ....666toy

Thanks for the follow-up.....whilst the figures are disturbing, what it doesn't show is the breakdown of causes of death. IF these deaths are caused by issues with the equipment itself (eg steering failures, unsafe/inadequate brake systems etc) then i believe we need to do something about it. One death caused by poor manufacturing is one death too many in my opinion. Whilst i agree that we need to make sure that we don't over-regulate our enjoyment to death, i still see lots of recreational quad bike riders not wearing any sort of protective equipment based on sound risk assessments ie riding in very steep rocky terrain up here with no helmet.

Thanks for your point of view 666toy. No argument here as it is your opinion and i respect that.......

Andrew

Thanks Andrew,
to my knowledge all of the name brand quads are made with a very high standard in mind (eg honda yamaha etc.) though a lot of ex china quads are comeing on the market & as a mechanic i would have these banned tomorrow they can be very dodgy in manufacture (but to be fair i have seen some very good units as well for the price ) & i have seen moter bikes (50cc) snap in half & wheels fall off quads so there is some merit there to regulate the import of these . i agree 1 death because of bad manufacturing is not to be tolerated. Alas i too have seen these clowns without safety gear on . what can you do though . they know the risk . banning the product is not going to stop it . fines ? -really dont work. education is the key & education starts at home. all comes back to something the gov really does not understand.....COMMON SENCE..might see ya on the track one day i hope might be in the L/C or could be the cr500 honda ....666toy

As long as it isn't head-on around a blind corner ;-)

Andrew

no worries there mate lol

i agree totally ,
only prob i have with that is i to after having a little fun with the lads a real hoon started having some circle work where the lads were playing on there bikes . i confronted this tool & he took a swing at me needles to say i had to "defend myself" so then i had to call the ambulance for this clown. i was given a suspended sentence & a lovely fine . what i am getting at is if you confront these clowns just be prepared to follow through....make of it what you will ...666toy

yep very true i hear what you say and yep there are some realy idiots out there that do wreck it for others....... but they will one day look back and see it happening to themselfs or kids but it is a shame that people think like that i remeber when i was a kid we use to be able to ride down to the beach with the swag and fishing rods and camp all night without any hassels from anyone

Anyhow everyone have a Good Xmas off on holidays in 5 days