Iridium satellite phone setup
Submitted: Friday, Nov 24, 2006 at 23:39
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prado geoff
I've been lurking off and on for years, but this is a first post - be gentle...
We're planning on doing a Simpson crossing next year and I've been looking into Sat phone as an emergency backup. After searching around and reading various posts (eg 29943/35536), I figured that a second-hand Motorola 9500 on Iridium with a $10/month Telstra GSM card enabled for roaming was the go.
Well I've got the phone, and just got the SIM today and had it roaming enabled. Two questions:
1) Does SMS inbound (I know the phone can't _send_ SMS) work using this roaming setup? I've sent a few SMS texts to the phone (using the Telstra GSM phone number) whilst the phone has been on and off, but none has come through as a message.
2) Does anybody have the definitive calling rate schedule. It's not on the telstra roaming rates web page, I've talked to the telstra/roaming helpdesk three times and been told three different rates - something like $1.60/min; $3.00/min; $6.??/min. I asked if they could tell me the web page that had the rates but they couldn't. Actually, they seemed a bit unsure.
Certainly the calls seem to work - I've been able to call up the Sat phone from a land line and the phone rings (I just hung up though). Also the sat phone calls out ok - I managed to call an Australian land line without problems. I only seem to miss SMS messages.
I figure I'll just look at my bill and see how much they charged for the couple of calls I made today, but I'd love to be able to have somewhere to check if the rates change over time.
Whilst you get a cheaper rate being on a proper sat phone plan, I cannot justify $30/month for what will be very infrequent call usage. So this setup seems to suit me nicely. But I would like to get SMS if possible...
Any pointers would be appreciated.
-g
Reply By: fisho64 - Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 02:27
Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 02:27
I work at sea and we have an Iridium Satphone that we use for voice and data transfer. I have to say that the voice side of it is an absolute embarrasment. Constant and continuos dropouts and incomprehensible conversations. To dial out on it is cheap, $1.50 a minute. To call in, (my missus made the mistake) $9 to $17 a minute.
And you are right, after 9 phone calls to both Optus (our land line provider) and HMCmail/Telstra (the satphones provider) they could not tell me the cost of incoming calls. Their best advice-look at the bill, "that will give an indication!")
to be fair though, if you were to yell "help" into it around 10 times, the person at the other end has a good chance of understanding you.
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Follow Up By: prado geoff - Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 20:47
Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 20:47
Yeah, some of those iridum calls get expensive. iPrimus list them as $12.10/min within Australia and $20.90/min outside. But as least iPrimus publish the rate!
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Reply By: Member - Jeff H (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 02:39
Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 02:39
Mate we bought a Motorola 9500(maybe), and
fork out $360 annually. As someone posted recently, the phone will reach 000 whether or not one has a paid up account. (Should your Missus need a long chat with her Princess, ahhhh)
Prado Geoff,
Maybe, having bought the handset, that's all that's required.!!!
I'm not up to speed on this one, and look forward to member input. Strange that the thread "been through
the desert on a horse with no name" recurs.Relax, friend: you're about to enjoy a holiday! So ENJOY tellum fukum:no sms.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (W.A) - Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 20:56
Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 20:56
WOOOOOF
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Follow Up By: prado geoff - Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 21:26
Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 21:26
Yes, I believe that 000 and 112 will work without a sim. Haven't tried it though.
I am also in the fortunate position that work doesn't call me (or only very rarely). I only was only after SMS so that family/friends could contact us if need be. I won't have the phone on much. I want it readily accessible - not with plugs and cables holding it down.
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Reply By: CoopersRed - Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 07:31
Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 07:31
Geoff,
we also bought a second-hand Motorola 9500 as emergency backup for our one year trip around OZ. From my point of view, basically still not a bad solution.
fisho is right, voice quality is very poor, but anyway it's usually enough, either to surprise your best mate on his birthday with a call from the bush, or to call for help if it is really needed. Long conversations are definitely crap though. (Maybe once that Iraq thing stops we get the bandwidth back, but that is another story.)
As far as I know, your trouble with the GSM SMS is easily explained. This phone does not support GSM. So while your card may be enabled, the phone does not use the 900MHz signal at all. It's a pure satphone. It does support SMS inbound (we received some) but only if sent to the Iridium number. But those BTW are hopefully still free or charge. At least so it was a year ago. You just had to use the Iridum SMS service. (
http://messaging.iridium.com/).
Cheers Wolf
www.bush-sweepers.org
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Follow Up By: prado geoff - Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 20:56
Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 20:56
We really only want the phone for SOS type calls, and possibly a once-per-day login with a friend as a safety-net. Which we'd make a really quick call. I'm trying to get an HF as our main comms, but also want something that I can quickly grab and bail if something particularly nasty happens. Also I'm sure the wife and our 7 year old will be able to use a sat phone, whilst I believe the HF has a higher learning curve (so I've read).
One of the posts I had read here seemed to imply that you'd still get SMS even with the roaming GSM card. I can understand if it doesn't, but I just wanted to check.
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Follow Up By: CoopersRed - Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 21:50
Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 21:50
No you don't get SMS with a GSM card. Your phone is capable to receive SMS (9550 models can both send and receive SMS) but only if they are sent to your Iridium number usually starting +8816...
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Reply By: Member - Big Al. Gold Coast - Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 10:30
Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 10:30
Geoff,
Telstra will want to lock you into a yearly account , with other Iridrum providers you
can go on a month by month account ours was about $30 plus calls.
Ours worked ok ( middle of bass straight and camerons corner)
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Follow Up By: prado geoff - Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 21:09
Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 21:09
I hadn't realised that. The "lock-in" for 1-2 years is my gripe. Having something you can enable for a 3-6week trip and then deactivate would have potential. I presume that you keep the same phone number doing that (my phone came with a deactivated iridium sim card and the guy gave me its original number).
What provider do you use?
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Reply By: Willem - Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 13:53
Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 13:53
Yep, I too have a Motorola 9500 bought 2nd hand in 2003. Have not had any problems with it (it is a pure Satphone however) and have used it overseas as
well. I am with Telstra $30 per month which includes $10 worth of calls and about $2.50 minute for normal calls. Sometimes I get a bit of resonance when calling home but have not had drop-outs or other worries.
I too sometimes worry about the $30 per month but I do get out and about for about 4 months of the year and make good use of it on my travels. The $360 per year is compensated for by not comprehensively insuring the truck.
Not sure about SMS but I think it is operational. It is not something that I worry about though.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: prado geoff - Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 21:33
Saturday, Nov 25, 2006 at 21:33
Willem, I enjoy reading your trip stories and advice. I wish I could get away even half as much as you do! But since I'm only just starting to get us kitted up for remote bush travelling all the initial costs are significant (in my case anyway). So I'm trying to be frugal where possible. Mind you, saving $240/year pales somewhat into insignificance if I get an HF.
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Reply By: Member - Big Al. Gold Coast - Sunday, Nov 26, 2006 at 11:04
Sunday, Nov 26, 2006 at 11:04
Geoff,
Our carrier was SATPAC and the dealer was Sky-com. (moved elsewhere now ) also try Bearcom. all on the
Gold Coast
I have the card still in the phone and only need to ring up to activate the account.
Same number.
My TIP>>>>>>>>Make sure you send and receive calls & SMS before leaving dealer. Just to be on the safe side.
Haven't used ours since 2004, then it was about $30 month. Will activate the account next year when we head over to WA. I think they are a must have when in remote areas. Our mobiles (optus & telstra ) serve us
well all other times. Just installed UHF also but yet to use it.
Al.
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Reply By: Dean (SA) - Sunday, Nov 26, 2006 at 16:31
Sunday, Nov 26, 2006 at 16:31
Prado Geoff,
The call rate is variable, however the maximum is $2.36 per 30 secs with a 50c ff, this applies to both outgoing and incoming.
Cant help with the sms as I have the 9505 which sends and recieves.
TRTelecom provide alternative plans to Telstra.
They have a
suspension plan.
It costs $15 a month and 50c a day when connected.
The contract is 4 months only.
The plan includes $10 calls per month.
Normal iridium call rate.
Dean
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