LEGAL LIMITS - should we still have to ask ?

Like I said , those who are not sure of a safe level of alcohol before driving , stick your head into a motor vehicle involved in a serious accident with persons trapped / injured and perhaps it may just help you to arrive at a responsible figure !

well Jarrod
for a start self rightous preaching does nothing but turn the person you are tying to convert away from your message, as i said in a later post stupid adds showing speeding cars with bashed about people in side not only desencitize people they end up having the opposite effect my kids look at these adds & go cool so the message is lost already,masive fines & loss of licence work well on the casual offender but these need to be
rethought becauce the loss of large amounts of money also impact on the family of the person booked thus adding presure to the situation & in the case of problem drinkers just pushes them back to the bottle,thye solution is not going to be easy as the culture of drink driving has been ingrained as part of the australian way of life for long time & cultural change takes time,we need for our youth to have some where to go wild & let thier hair down without being intimidtaed but being encouraged to do it safely,& you as police need to leed from the front by working with people along side but not in control, become part of the community not its intimidator,having siad this non of the above will stop the repeat offender becauce as with all serial criminals they lack the abillityto change or tosee the error of thier actions therefor the only course of action is the removal of the offender out of society until they get the mesage, thier sentence should also inclued time in the emergancy ward & the morge please note i am not bagging the police they are not the problem & do the best they can with wht they have the problem is with the courts/ out of touch judges & polititions the sentencing laws need to be strenghtend to allow for murder charges to be taken agianst serous offenders by seruos offenders i dont meen those just on .005 or just over becauce it is easy to miss judge at such a low level but those over 008 or repeat offenders.you will also note that this may well be the place some of the people who drink drive are becauce not to meny names or screen names have appeared on my prevous postof those who have never done it sorry for the soap box but you did ask
Regards Bruce

Michael
I agree we are responsable for the future direction of society only up to the piont that our kids take over,the point im a making that by the time our kids reach that age we have alread lost becauce it is when they are young that they are exposed to adds & political campains which even some adults dont get as example i use the me know fry anti cancer adds which were removed because of the negitive affect they wer having on egg sales & tourism ,bad sales pitch with obsquire message & i believe this is the problem of stoping drink driving ,as i said before this whole isue started becauce 1 person asked what the limit was he didnt know & was doing the responsable, thing to find out so as to not break the law .but due to brain washing & the fact that most probaly didnt know the answer them selfs it was decided to self rightuosly attack the man rather than sy hay its .005 aust wide in some form or otherwhich is all wanted to know ,did you achieve your aim of shaming him into not driving after drinking who knows but all it achieved from my point of view was to bleep me off at the attiude he was shown may be this thread should be forwarded to a few poli's as ther seems to be some good ideas in it
please note if i have offended some of you that was not my intention,but subjects like this do need to be bandied about now & then if we are truely to make change happen a little revolution now & then is a good thing !!

sajh
i have to disagree about the advertising you only have to look to the road toll on any holiday period to see that people are not paying attention to these adds,nsw consitantly has high death toll over holidays
i believe people either dont get the message or even worse turn these adds off ,sorry to dis agree but in the face of the rising death toll on our roads ibelieve its time for a rethink of how we tackle this issue & i still maintain self rightous preaching & the type of adds showing death & destruction only pander to the vouyer in us all, as seen at all road accidents by the presence of rubber neckers & by standers. & yes i have help at a number of accidents & seen this happen people standing aruond gawking ask them for help & its amazing how many non english specking people there are